Y'all Better Stop Slandering Brock Purdy

[King Kreole]

Comparing raw QB numbers from different eras is foolish. The post 2010 QB will always have the advantage.over the QBs who came before. Guys like Teddy Bridgewater have a batter career passer rating than Dan Marino. Is that a product of play or era? There are stats that are era adjusted that can be used like... ANY/A, DVOA and DYAR. But raw numbers will almost always favor the more modern QB

Depends on the stats you're comparing. Raw passing yardage is of course an unreasonable metric given the rules changes, but TD-INT ratio is still a fairly reasonable comparison. The post-2010s QBs may have a push-factor in the stats, but they're also being asked to do far more than the previous era QBs. And the advanced metrics you mentioned like ANY/A and DVOA use TDs and Ints as foundational statistics in their models because regardless of era, a QB throwing a TD is the most positive outcome on any play and throwing an interception is the worst outcome on any play.

 

[CHICAGO]

There are too many haters and stans in sports discourse now, so people are just trying to get their hot takes off. But the real answer is longevity. Lamar has 2x MVPs and 3x First-Team All Pros, so even if he does have a stinker slump he still has a 7-season resume of Tier 1 play to fall back on. The younger guys don't have that. Mahomes lowkey has been playing Tier-2 ball for the past few years but he has 5-seasons worth of goated play so he's pretty much untouchable. It is what it is. People are just too quick to give up on young QBs figuring it out, which is why they have these stupid whiplash takes where one game a guy is an elite future-goat and the next game he's a bum who should be benched. If social media was around back in the day these same guys would be saying the same stupid shyt about a ton of HOF QBs.

Purdy is on his 40th start with 70 TDs and 32 ints. At their 40th starts, Peyton Manning had 70 TDs and 52 ints, Brady had 57 TDs and 34 ints, Brees had 51 TDs and 37 ints, Roethlisberger had 50 TDs and 41 ints. Mahomes being a unicorn who dominated basically immediately has destroyed people's perception of normal QB development.

COMPARE PASSING STATS
FROM THE EARLY 2000S
TO THE CURRENT NFL BREAUGHS



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[Bryan Danielson]

COMPARE PASSING STATS
FROM THE EARLY 2000S
TO THE CURRENT NFL BREAUGHS



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Early 2000s ain’t 1950s


Also we ain’t gonna get off 4 straight games, 1TD and 7turnovers

 

[Roid Jones]

Who upped this thread? we already know Mac Jones>>>>>>>>>>>Purdy

 

[Bryan Danielson]

Who upped this thread? we already know Mac Jones>>>>>>>>>>>Purdy

If Mac was better…. he wouldnt be on the Niners team right now

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

Comparing raw QB numbers from different eras is foolish. The post 2010 QB will always have the advantage.over the QBs who came before. Guys like Teddy Bridgewater have a batter career passer rating than Dan Marino. Is that a product of play or era? There are stats that are era adjusted that can be used like... ANY/A, DVOA and DYAR. But raw numbers will almost always favor the more modern QB

Let's just keep it to present day @premier58 Purdy's career QB rating is 103.1 even after the bad half last week

The guys making "Brock money"

Kyler Murray: 92.2

Tua: 96.6

Dak: 98.5

Jordan Love: 97.4

Trevor Lawrence: 84.2

Herbert: 96.4

Goff: 96.8

Jalen Hurts: 95.0

Watson: 98.8


Guys making a little less than "Brock money"


Baker: 91.4

Geno Smith: 87.4

Darnold: 86.4

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

Oh and Mac Jones since people wanna talk about him: 86.9

 

[feelosofer]

Who upped this thread? we already know Mac Jones>>>>>>>>>>>Purdy

This is recency bias. Mac was damn near out of the league after last season.and he isn't as good as Sam Darnold or even Daniel Jones.

He did a very good job when asked to play but even towards the end he wasn't as good. He had the same pass chart as Purdy did his rookie year but he's better now.

Brock has obviously been playing hurt all season and Kyle Shanahan should have had the stones to shut him down the rest of the season to let the turf toe fully heal.

 

[premier58]

Let's just keep it to present day @premier58 Purdy's career QB rating is 103.1 even after the bad half last week

The guys making "Brock money"

Kyler Murray: 92.2

Tua: 96.6

Dak: 98.5

Jordan Love: 97.4

Trevor Lawrence: 84.2

Herbert: 96.4

Goff: 96.8

Jalen Hurts: 95.0

Watson: 98.8


Guys making a little less than "Brock money"


Baker: 91.4

Geno Smith: 87.4

Darnold: 86.4

Im a Brock fan. You know that. My post wasnt intended as a slight to him..i was merely stating my frustration at the internets fascination with comparing stats from different eras, without context. Its.not a.coincidence that aside from 83 Marino and 2004 Roethlisberger, all.the great rookie seasons by QB's, were in the post 2010 era. 2011 Cam, 2016 Dak, 2018 Baker, 2017 Watson, 2020 Herbert, 2023 Stroud, 2024 JDaniels, 2012, RG3, Luck, Wilson etc...

 

[PHamm]

COMPARE PASSING STATS
FROM THE EARLY 2000S
TO THE CURRENT NFL BREAUGHS



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Passing stats need to be divided between pre-2004/post-2003

Polian and Archie getting the rules changed to help Peyton rendered these stats useless when comparing QBs from previous eras

 

[Bryan Danielson]

Passing stats need to be divided between pre-2004/post-2003

Polian and Archie getting the rules changed to help Peyton rendered these stats useless when comparing QBs from previous eras

well there has already been a stat sample that shower Purdy was in line or better statistically than Mahomes.

But people tried to discredit that so this is what all that delve into.

people just need to accept it and stop that “but you can’t do that” stuff

 

[CHICAGO]

Passing stats need to be divided between pre-2004/post-2003

Polian and Archie getting the rules changed to help Peyton rendered these stats useless when comparing QBs from previous eras

ITS AN ACCUMULATION OF THINGS.

PEYTON RULE WAS THE STARTING POINT...

ADD BRADYS KNEE GETTING
TORN UP
WHICH LEAD TO ONLY BEING ABLE
TO HIT THE PASSER IN THE MID SECTION
AND NOT LANDING ON HIM
WITH ANY WEIGHT.

ADD NOT BEING
ABLE TO BLOW UP A RECEIVER
GOING ACROSS THE MIDDLE
OF THE FIELD ANYMORE.


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[King Kreole]

Im a Brock fan. You know that. My post wasnt intended as a slight to him..i was merely stating my frustration at the internets fascination with comparing stats from different eras, without context. Its.not a.coincidence that aside from 83 Marino and 2004 Roethlisberger, all.the great rookie seasons by QB's, were in the post 2010 era. 2011 Cam, 2016 Dak, 2018 Baker, 2017 Watson, 2020 Herbert, 2023 Stroud, 2024 JDaniels, 2012, RG3, Luck, Wilson etc...

I think this is actually an interesting discussion. We all agree that you can't do a 1-to-1 statistics comparison between a quarterback in the 1980s and a quarterback in the 2010s, but how do you suggest comparing quarterbacks across eras? And would you agree that the game's evolution has required modern quarterbacks to play at a more advanced, skilled level? For example, if you look at the quality of throws and decision-making that Drake Maye has to have under his belt to play high-level, winning quarterback play and compare it to say Jim McMahon or Mark Brunell, do you acknowledge the game is much harder now for quarterbacks, even given the rules changes? I would rather have Matt Stafford quarterbacking my 1990s team than Boomer Esiason quarterbacking my 2020s team.

 

[premier58]

I think this is actually an interesting discussion. We all agree that you can't do a 1-to-1 statistics comparison between a quarterback in the 1980s and a quarterback in the 2010s, but how do you suggest comparing quarterbacks across eras? And would you agree that the game's evolution has required modern quarterbacks to play at a more advanced, skilled level? For example, if you look at the quality of throws and decision-making that Drake Maye has to have under his belt to play high-level, winning quarterback play and compare it to say Jim McMahon or Mark Brunell, do you acknowledge the game is much harder now for quarterbacks, even given the rules changes? I would rather have Matt Stafford quarterbacking my 1990s team than Boomer Esiason quarterbacking my 2020s team.

Great and insightful post. I will respond to it more thoroughly in the am.

 

[28 Gramz]

Tell the MVP to win a Conference title

He aint even gotta win the SB (which would be nice is we gonna crown him so hard) but at least bring that Lamar Hunt trophy to Buffalo

I know some someone that eared a George Halas

Allen would have 3 rings if he was drafted to the 9ers.