You know, for all of the talk being Roman being Vince's Next Top Guy

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Daniel Bryan also won the title 3 times in under a year and lost two singles matches between Summerslam 2013 and and going on the IR in May of 2014. One of them was by countout. Everyone was complaining that whole time about how weak he looked.
Daniel Bryan lost to Bray Wyatt, and Orton numerous times between Summerslam and the RR :what:
 

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Daniel Bryan lost to Bray Wyatt, and Orton numerous times between Summerslam and the RR :what:

Not clean, which was what the discussion was. Bray is the only guy to beat Bryan clean between June of 2013 (the start of his main event push) and February of 2015. Out of his last 70 singles matches on TV/PPV, he lost 10. 2 were clean. This is the same guy that people complained and complained about how hard he was being buried, how must he lost, how weak he looked.

Roman gets the same treatment and people bytch about how much he wins.
 

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Not clean, which was what the discussion was. Bray is the only guy to beat Bryan clean between June of 2013 (the start of his main event push) and February of 2015. Out of his last 70 singles matches on TV/PPV, he lost 10. 2 were clean. This is the same guy that people complained and complained about how hard he was being buried, how must he lost, how weak he looked.

Roman gets the same treatment and people bytch about how much he wins.
Bryan lost to Sheamus, Bray, Orton, Reigns, etc numerous times during that time period. The whole deal before his push was him losing matches and being the weak link :what:

Roman never loses ever 1 on 1
 

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The weak link angle was before that. By June of 2013 (which is when his real main event push started), he didn't lose a singles match clean until the Rumble against Bray. After that, he didn't lose clean until Roman at Fastlane 2015. He didn't lose "multiple times" to anyone except Orton, one of which was the MITB cash in, and the other being the HIAC where HBK superkicked him. In fact, he has multiple wins over Roman during that period.
 

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Who will be the first man to be beat Roman clean? :ohhh:

He'll probably lose the belt to a cash in (again, to a heel) then win it back at WM33, wonder when that clean loss will come? :jbhmm:

Worse than Hogan in the 80's/90's :scust:
 

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Pretty sure Seth beat Roman clean on Raw once. Before WM last year. Hogan had 1 clean loss in 9 1/2 years in his second WWF run.
 

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Pretty sure Seth beat Roman clean on Raw once. Before WM last year. Hogan had 1 clean loss in 9 1/2 years in his second WWF run.

No it wasn't, skip to 2.00.



And at least Hogan took a clean loss :sas2: But seriously, 1 in nearly 10 years? Fukk, and Hogan said he lost way more than he won when he came back in an interview once :skip:
 

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How hard is it to quote or @ someone when replying to them
 

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No it wasn't, skip to 2.00.



And at least Hogan took a clean loss :sas2: But seriously, 1 in nearly 10 years? Fukk, and Hogan said he lost way more than he won when he came back in an interview once :skip:


1 clean loss. He did lose a lot of house show matches via count out or DQ to set up rematches around the horn. The general formula for him (and Bruno) seemed to be "Lose first match via count out, lose second via DQ, win in a standard match or, if heated enough, in a cage. Although in Bruno's case, he seemed to lose most of his cage matches by knocking his opponent through the door and then winning a straight match later.


The only matches he lost by pinfall in WWF 1983-1993

Andre in 1988 via second ref shenanigans, match was overruled and title vacated
Warrior at WM6, completely clean
Taker at Survivor Series 1991, after a tombstone on a chair (and assist from Ric Flair), won title back days later, vacated anyway
Yoko KOTR 1993 after a camera exploded in his face



As a comparison, Hogan had 4 clean pinfalls in 2002 alone. I think he had 10 singles matches in WCW where he actually lost by pinfall or submission. 7ish were clean.
 
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What the hell are yall talking about?

They gave up on Roman as the next Cena. But as long as Cena is out he's the top guy.
 

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Daniel Bryan also won the title 3 times in under a year and lost two singles matches between Summerslam 2013 and and going on the IR in May of 2014. One of them was by countout. Everyone was complaining that whole time about how weak he looked.
When you're getting beat down twice a week, management telling the crowd "he's too small, he's ugly, he isn't a draw, he's nothing special, he's not worth watching", and then getting screwed out of the title every month until they push someone else into the title picture and even have him steal his yes chant, that is getting booked incredibly badly.
 

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Don't remember Roman ever losing to anyone clean in a singles match..never to Seth clean. Bray did BEAT him clean at Elimination Chamber and the rematch too.
 
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