Your thoughts on Geno Smith?

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I could provide just as many GIF's of bad throws as you can of good

I`d say he's inconsistent, he can throw a good one and can really underthrow and struggle with accuracy often too

Of course he's inconsistent. Do you recall a consistent rookie in virtually any sport? Dude is adjusting to the speed of the league too. I don't see inconsistency as an issue when we're talking about players with limited experience. When we're talking about 8,9 year vets then there's a problem.
 

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:what: :mindblown:

He sat on the bench for the first half of his first season, took the Gmen into the wildcard playoffs the next two, then won the Superbowl in his 4th.

Eli was pretty pooh, though. He was just clutch in the playoffs. Son had 20 pick seasons from the get go. Eli is a very strange case. Dude is pretty craptacular in the regular season. But in the playoffs he's pretty good. He's had help but can't deny his clutch factor.
 
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Of course he's inconsistent. Do you recall a consistent rookie in virtually any sport? Dude is adjusting to the speed of the league too. I don't see inconsistency as an issue when we're talking about players with limited experience. When we're talking about 8,9 year vets then there's a problem.

I`m not criticizing him for that.

Just criticizing a pretty suggestive post of saying

"Geno can throw the deep ball"

And then posting one GIF of throwing it well like it's proof positive. Reality is, he misses it often too. But he's a rookie and has a lot of room to grow/
 

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I`m not criticizing him for that.

Just criticizing a pretty suggestive post of saying

"Geno can throw the deep ball"

And then posting one GIF of throwing it well like it's proof positive. Reality is, he misses it often too. But he's a rookie and has a lot of room to grow/

Reality is, he was number 4 in the NFL in completion percentage on passes of over 25 yards.

Lie much?
 

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This is the coli. QBs need to be developed by year 1 or 2.
It's not even just that. Geno fair or unfair bears 45 years of Jets misery on his back. Once fans begin to feel like you're not the guy, they're through with you no matter how good you might be. For that alone, he'll never have a long leash.


He simply needs targets to grow with. The team needs to realize that they can't win every game 3-0
 

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I`m not criticizing him for that.

Just criticizing a pretty suggestive post of saying

"Geno can throw the deep ball"

And then posting one GIF of throwing it well like it's proof positive. Reality is, he misses it often too. But he's a rookie and has a lot of room to grow/

Pro Football Focus asserts that Geno had the 7th best adjusted deep ball percentages in league, so my gif isn't a example of cherry picking. That said Geno was also bottom 5 in overall accuracy percentage. He was bottom 10 in accuracy under pressure too. But these mumbers mostly feature Geno's performance during the early stretch for the season. I bet his final 4 games look different from an overall accuracy and pressure standpoint.
 
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We can argue stats, ability, projections, teammate influences, and whatever else under the Sun, but the fact is that most rookies picked in the first 2 rounds who get to start the bulk of their first or second season (or anywhere early in their career) tend to come back the following year as the undisputed starter and the team tends to go all in with that guy. At no point this off-season have the Jets made a 2014 commitment to Geno Smith, they've actively debated what to do with Sanchez, and have made it public they are looking to add more QBs to compete, not just be camp arms, whether it be through the draft or FA. If the Jets were as high on him as some posters here are, they'd be insane not to declare that he's the guy as soon as they could, especially in the ultra speculative media market of NY. They're the ones with the film, the breakdowns, every advanced stats, and most importantly, intimate knowledge of the player himself.

Given all that info, their unwillingness to place Geno firmly behind the driver's seat and make him THE guy should be unnerving to the biggest of Geno fans / stans. In fact the last time I saw the Jets start a young, green QB for the bulk of the season beginning with game 1 and then they hedged all offseason about moving forward with him was Browning Nagle, and he was replaced immediately when they had the chance to grab Esiason. It happened again with Kellen Clemens in '07, but he wasn't the starter coming out of camp like Nagle and Smith were, and they jumped on Favre (then Sanchez) to make sure Clemens never saw the field in green again. And if you're a Geno guy, you should be just a little :ld:that Geno's name is in the same boat as Nagle (also a 2nd rd pick) and in the same range as Clemens' (yet another 2nd round pick).
 

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Eli was pretty pooh, though. He was just clutch in the playoffs. Son had 20 pick seasons from the get go. Eli is a very strange case. Dude is pretty craptacular in the regular season. But in the playoffs he's pretty good. He's had help but can't deny his clutch factor.
I understand his fault of having high INT every year, but at the same time not all of his INT are his fault, i.e. receivers tiping the ball instead of catching.

Just realized I never mentioned Geno in my original post................So are the Jets really in talks with Vick. If he comes in and mentors Geno :banderas:
 

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I understand his fault of having high INT every year, but at the same time not all of his INT are his fault, i.e. receivers tiping the ball instead of catching.

Just realized I never mentioned Geno in my original post................So are the Jets really in talks with Vick. If he comes in and mentors Geno :banderas:

You can say that about any QB.
 

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I know, but Eli always seems to get shyt for his

Because he throws a lot of picks. He has always had good receivers so you can't blame them all on him. Eli's problem is he gives no fukks. He will throw into double and triple coverage because he's reckless. I don't really bytch about INTs as much as some people....but Eli throws way too many. He's got close to a 1:1 TD to INT ratio. That's terrible.
 

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I know, but Eli always seems to get shyt for his

When you're the leader in total interceptions for the past 5 years, and you've led the league in picks in 2013, 2010, and 2007, it stops being a coincidence and happenstance of bad luck and you deserve all the sh!t you get for it. Especially after he defiantly declared himself elite. Also, fairly or unfairly, the fact that he looks like he's missing a chromosome or two doesn't help him at all when he makes costly mental error after costly mental error. I'm not even clowning with that statement, it just makes it that much easier for some to paint him as the slack-jawed yokel many still see him as.
 

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he showed flashes but he also threw some of the worst most inaccruate passes ive ever seen, hell probavly be like Sanchez show flashes but be wildly inconsistent and do enough to be a starter for a few years till people relaize hes just not tha tgood
 

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he's ugly as fukk, but he's better than sanchez bytch ass was and is willing to take a hit
 
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