Notorious Jerry
Change&Hope Ambassador
Youtube is a huge site you have to be more direct when adressing the content that was removed, if it was content not related directly to the gaming videos were speaking on then I have nothing to do with it.
YouTubers Are Stealing From Game Developers - Fuk Dat!
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Why don't we just cut the bullshyt and you admit if it weren't for you trying to make money off it you wouldn't give a shyt.
It's like argueing with a drug dealer the merits of why selling drugs is wrong.
Notorious Jerry
Change&Hope Ambassador
You missed the first post I even said thats why I cant take what you saying even remotely legit..
I Do not by any means make money off of youtube most of the people you want dont the ish is a lot of work getting yourself to a point you can even start seeing profit, most people do it cause they enjoy gaming and like others viewing them doing so. My stance is imo that guy is being greedy players spend money on games some developers half ass, nickle and dime you with dlc and often promise things in games that once you buy them are not game. All im asking you is why isnt this issue being pursed world wide?
I Do not by any means make money off of youtube most of the people you want dont the ish is a lot of work getting yourself to a point you can even start seeing profit, most people do it cause they enjoy gaming and like others viewing them doing so. My stance is imo that guy is being greedy players spend money on games some developers half ass, nickle and dime you with dlc and often promise things in games that once you buy them are not game. All im asking you is why isnt this issue being pursed world wide?
So that why Youre begging for subs in your sig and pity stickied thread?
Talkin bout takin ME serious when youre begging for subs
Can't believe you just called a guy who spent four years of his life with exactly one other person creating a game from the ground up greedy because he doesn't want people profitting off something he owns.
Go watch indie game:the movie.
Go watch indie game:the movie.
Notorious Jerry
Change&Hope Ambassador
Now your getting female petty manSo that why Youre begging for subs in your sig and pity stickied thread?
Talkin bout takin ME serious when youre begging for subs
. Beg never that. You female status in my book atm. My sig thier for people to use or not no sleep will be lost
TheGodling
Los Ingobernables de Sala de Cine
Did I miss the part where Youtube has become an emulator for me to play games on, or a server to download games from? Because that's the only way Youtubers would be in direct violation of piracy laws. What they're doing now is creating content on their own using software they paid for. You don't see Adobe suing people because they make videos of people making art in Photoshop, because they don't own what you do with the software. Similarwise, developers have no claim on the gaming experience of people, and that's what Youtube videos are about, an individual's gaming experience which varies for every person using the software.
To give an example, the only Youtube gamer I follow is Robbaz and while he does playthroughs of some games, what makes his videos awesome aren't the games he's playing, it's how he plays them. And while the popularity of a game might influence the popularity of the video, in the end he is the one to sell it because there's thousands of playthrough videos that don't get as much as a 1,000 views, let alone the millions that probably don't even get 10 views.
If people just wanted to see the game content, they could watch every "Let's Play" on Youtube. It's how these gamers play the game, the commentary they give on it, that ultimately sells the video, not the game and sure as fukk not the developer.
To give an example, the only Youtube gamer I follow is Robbaz and while he does playthroughs of some games, what makes his videos awesome aren't the games he's playing, it's how he plays them. And while the popularity of a game might influence the popularity of the video, in the end he is the one to sell it because there's thousands of playthrough videos that don't get as much as a 1,000 views, let alone the millions that probably don't even get 10 views.
If people just wanted to see the game content, they could watch every "Let's Play" on Youtube. It's how these gamers play the game, the commentary they give on it, that ultimately sells the video, not the game and sure as fukk not the developer.
The law is clearly in the developers favour. Someone already posted that. Theyre profitting off a property they don't own.
Until nintendo recently cut a deal with lets play he was not allowed to show nintendo games, because they didn't allow it.
THIS is your argument breh? You are a pretty smart individual, but how are you comparing the two? Someone covering a song in its entirety takes a lot more effort than it does me grabbing my controller, playing the game and going through it. It is nowhere near the same IMO.
Plus, you also have to consider that a song in the grand scheme of things is $1...and the experience is over in usually less than 5 minutes.
A full game however costs $60 apiece...AND sometimes costs HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of dollars to create. Someone playing a story driven game such as Max Payne 3 in its entirety without talking much just gave away a "viewing" and actually PROFITING from it.
You're acting like corporations think logically when profit is involved. If game developers want money from "Let's Play" videos other companies will be screaming ME TOO ME TOO! This is definitely a slippery slope and I can't support it.
Mr Hate Coffee
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I can't tell if you're implying that's what I do or not, but I can only speak for myself. I'll check out a Let's Play to look at a certain part of a game, maybe 3 mins max and then go cut that shyt off. Who in the world would sit down and watch someone else play a game in it's entirety? Unless it's a speed run I can't imagine anyone doing it.
Those laws don't really matter. A precedence has to be set first. Plus, all it takes is considerable consumer backlash for those laws to go in the bushes. Nintendo has caved before. Microsoft has caved before as well. The smart developers won't fight this but will figure out how to partner with the famous youtubers so they can get bread together. The dumb developers will fight it and alienate their customer base.
If there are already millions of people watching these videos you can't just take that away without offering a viable alternative. Historically, once consumers have it in their mind that something should be free any efforts to make them pay afterwards doesn't pan out well.
You Win Perfect
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some people like to watch playthroughs. developers need to get over it. A lot of times I'll watch after I beat a game just to watch the game like a movie to be honest (without the commentary). That's really the only reason I go on to YouTube, that or to watch a tutorial video of some sort thats not gaming related.
not really. most of these examples qualify as "derivative work"
Robbaz da god. become a viking today brehs
the millions upon millions of people who watch people play games in their entirety on youtube, twitch and ustream, thats who.
then how has nintendo been able to block all videos containing their games?
. they struck a deal with let play but he has to share revenue with them.
