Crime is starting to go down despite reports that crime is rising

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Damn, the 60s were safe as hell.
Crime started to spike after the 60s because of the policies of Nixon, Reagan and them. Specifically the lowering taxes for the rich and sending manufacturing elsewhere. They started to ship jobs overseas and we lost our manufacturing base. Detroit is proof of this. You dont want crime? Increase teenage employment. Teenage employment in my opinion is how you prevent most crimes since the kid gets something similar to an erly apprenticeship and can plan for life.
 
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In a related note, Retailers have been overstating theft. I copied and pasted parts I thought were important. Methinks companies are riding this shoplifting wave to justify business cuts and increase prices. Fear mongering


NEW YORK (AP) — The National Retail Federation, the nation’s largest retail trade group, has revised a report released in April that pulls back the claim that organized retail crime accounts for nearly half of overall industry shrink, which measures overall loss in inventory, including theft

David Johnston, the national retail group’s vice president of asset protection and retail operations, told The Associated Press in an interview on Thursday that the discrepancy was based on K2 referencing U.S. Senate testimony delivered in 2021 by Ben Dugan, who at the time was the president of a nonpartisan group called the Coalition of Law Enforcement and Retail, or CLEAR. In testimony, Dugan said that organized retail crime accounted for $45 billion in annual losses for retailers and cited the coalition

The K2 analyst then made an incorrect inference linking the 2022 NRF security survey’s results with the CLEAR figure. Johnston said he hasn’t been able to confirm where CLEAR derived the $45 billion amount, but he said that a 2016 security survey by the retail trade group reported $45 billion in overall shrink loss.

The revised report also deleted any estimate of organized retail crime’s overall impact in dollars and any reference to CLEAR.

“It was an inaccurate inference,” Johnston said. “We missed it.”



It’s unclear how much money retailers broadly are losing due to organized retail crime — or if the problem has substantially increased. But the issue has received more notice in the past few years as high-profile smash-and-grab retail thefts and flash mob robberies have garnered national media attention. Over the past few quarters, an increasing number of retailers including dikk’s Sporting Goods and Ulta Beauty have been calling out rising theft, citing it a factor in shrinking profits.

Target announced in late September that it was closing nine stores in four states, including one in New York City’s East Harlem neighborhood, and three in the San Francisco Bay Area, saying that theft and organized retail crime have threatened the safety of its workers and customers. The stores closed in late October.

But a shoplifting report examining 24 major U.S. cities published in November by the nonpartisan Council on Criminal Justice paints a different picture. The report, which uses police data through the first half of 2023, shows shoplifting incidents were 16% higher compared with the first half of 2019. But excluding New York City, reported incidents actually fell 7% over the same time period.

Ernesto Lopez of the Council of Criminal Justice and co-author of the report, had said the study adds new context to previous efforts to measure shoplifting trends, which were based on data from single jurisdictions or retailers. Still, more data is needed.

“At this point, we just don’t have a strong grasp on the extent and changing nature of the shoplifting problem, ” he said in a statement sent to The Associated Press on Thursday in response to NRF’s revision. He noted that it’s unclear how many retailers are reporting theft incidents to police, and how often they are reporting them. He also said it’s unclear how anti-theft measures taken by retailers may be affecting theft levels.
There was a thread on hear whining about this shyt and I called it from jump that they were lying. dikks sporting goods was trying to convince people they had damn near 1 billion dollars in theft in a calendar year was comical :heh:


These companies will do and say anything to keep that stock price up
 
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Crime started to spike after the 60s because of the policies of Nixon, Reagan and them. Specifically the lowering taxes for the rich and sending manufacturing elsewhere. They started to ship jobs overseas and we lost our manufacturing base. Detroit is proof of this. You dont want crime? Increase teenage employment. Teenage employment in my opinion is how you prevent most crimes since the kid gets something similar to an erly apprenticeship and can plan for life.

I thought this post was going to suggest that maybe we should improve the quality of life for American citizens, based on the first couple of sentences ........instead this guy said we should increase child labor :heh:

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I thought this post was going to suggest that maybe we should improve the quality of life for American citizens, based on the first couple of sentences ........instead this guy said we should increase child labor :heh:

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That's not what I said tbh. I explained why crime went up in the 1970s and 1980s and how it's because of neo liberalism and sending jobs overseas. I should have specified that I meant apprenticeships for teenagers so that they have a pathway to jobs once they're done with college or high school. Germany and japan both do this.
 

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Yeah but idiots will always eat up the crime narrative no matter what you tell them

Case in point, a bunch of posts from velcro shoe wearing idiots in this thread who think their opinions mean more than actual stats and facts.

Thanks Republicans for making idiots think their opinions matter more than actual facts :francis:
This is why I didn't do any arguing. I'm off that lol.
 

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Crime started to spike after the 60s because of the policies of Nixon, Reagan and them. Specifically the lowering taxes for the rich and sending manufacturing elsewhere. They started to ship jobs overseas and we lost our manufacturing base. Detroit is proof of this. You dont want crime? Increase teenage employment. Teenage employment in my opinion is how you prevent most crimes since the kid gets something similar to an erly apprenticeship and can plan for life.
Nah. Thats not going to work
 

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Yeah but idiots will always eat up the crime narrative no matter what you tell them

Case in point, a bunch of posts from velcro shoe wearing idiots in this thread who think their opinions mean more than actual stats and facts.

Thanks Republicans for making idiots think their opinions matter more than actual facts :francis:
Stats are cool and all but they don't tell the full story.
 
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If I see two people get shot and no one reports any shooting, did two people not get shot? I see a man get robbed and the man does not report the robbery, did he not get robbed?
Are you attempting to make an argument that the police force who’s funding is tied to crime rates to the point that they will quite literally use the media to lie about crime rates with copaganda to get funding increases aren’t reporting actual crimes? :heh:

And also not even posting any actual proof this is occurring?
 
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