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It makes sense that you Stan guards that make 3s and don't guard anyoneIt all makes sense that you're a Rondo stan.
In their primes, who do you take: Nash or Jkidd
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This man gets it. I would rep you but I cant just did the other day.
ItzDaKiing
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Making it means nothing if you don't win it. You're juat like everyone else that.got.tossed from the playoffs, just took a bit longer. Same reason why lebron goin to the finals 6 times don't impress me, dude lost 4 of em. That's not greatness.Did u hear yourself he made 3 finals and u say he did nothing
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How did Nash revolutionize the offensive game?
Comparing Nash to Curry and then Kidd to Rondo and then using those comparisons to say Nash >>> Kidd is faulty thinking breh.breh...
Nash was in the 50/40/90 range several times while having last I checked (a while ago) 5 of the 8 top offenses in league history. There is a lot to talk about regarding usage (scoring) from the PG spot versus distribution(shot creation) but I'll keep it short - Nash's scoring blows Kidd out of the water and it isn't just by the %s. Nash was a high efficiency, mid usage PG that probably held his team back because he generally SHOULD have shot more - and he was already running GOAT level offenses. Think about how insane that is - we're talking about a guy that we really wanted to see in 05 that would look like Curry now (he wouldn't and that's another topic). Already wrecking the league offensively and he could still be somewhat faulted for not shooting enough. And then we have Kidd, a relatively low efficiency (and that's being nice) mid usage PG that we would want to shoot even less. Yes, that '13ppg' Kidd was averaging wasn't even generating enough offense to be league average. It actually might have been better if Kidd kept passing even if he was wide open for 3 - that's how bad his offense was compared to Nash. It's pretty much a Steph Curry versus Rondo situation and no one is stupid enough (this is thecoli though) to pick the latter.
LV Koopa
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Because the general public didn't actually understand what was happening in Dallas at the time. He was pretty damn good his last few years there. Marshall and Lin didn't have close to the impact Nash had under D'Antoni.
LV Koopa
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Read it carefully.
He did win one though lol just like Lebron has some rings.Again if you had to start a team with one, 99% of GMs would pick kidd.
Nash is great but he didn't become a HOF until he played in Mike's system, you can argue he was the system, but if that was the case, why didn't he put up numbers like (phoenix) in dallas when he played with comparable or better offensive talent in a small ball system don nelson had?
imagine kidd on those early 00 dallas teams with dirk, fin, jamison, walker, etc.. I could see them making the finals in 03 (beating the spurs), or 04 beating that old laker team as well.
Nash is great but he didn't become a HOF until he played in Mike's system, you can argue he was the system, but if that was the case, why didn't he put up numbers like (phoenix) in dallas when he played with comparable or better offensive talent in a small ball system don nelson had?
imagine kidd on those early 00 dallas teams with dirk, fin, jamison, walker, etc.. I could see them making the finals in 03 (beating the spurs), or 04 beating that old laker team as well.
Who implied that they had a similar impact? All that stuff is irrelevant.
The point is that d'antoni system elevates every pg who plays in it and makes them look better than they are
29 year old nash was a 2 time all star before linking with d'gawdtoni. He immediately won 2 mvp's. This has literally NEVER happened before. Nash put up better stats at 36 than he did at 26, this has NEVER happened before.
Jeremy lin was an undrafted nerd who couldnt buy playing time. He got with the maestro d'antoni and had People on sohh arguung that the knicks should trade melo and build around lin. They argued that lin would be better than kyrie irving and john wall.
Kendall marshall finished 2nd in the ENTIRE NBA in assists per game
RAYMOND FELTON WAS AVERAGING 17 AND 9
Someone would have to be foolish to believe all of this is a coincidence. Every knowledgeable basketball fan has accepted the fact that d'antoni meant more to nash than nash meant to d'antoni.
Nba players openly discuss this
Every pg in the draft (lawson, steph curry, brandon jennings, etc) wanted to go to ny cuz they knew that d'antoni could make a decent pg look like a borderline allstar, and he could make a borderline all star look like a hall of famer.
I remember games where the corpse of baron davis had 10 assists in less than 20 minutes playing for d'antoni
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To answer this question its pretty important and creates an instant advantage.. First off it gives your team extra possessions and opportunities to score.. Secondly it really stimulates the fast break and can lead to easy transition points down the floor. Because the rebounder is the primary ball handler, so it takes away the need of DeAndre Jordan making an outlet pass that can possibly be a turnover...
Just watch Russell Westbrook for an example..
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Who implied that they had a similar impact? All that stuff is irrelevant.
The point is that d'antoni system elevates every pg who plays in it and makes them look better than they are
29 year old nash was a 2 time all star before linking with d'gawdtoni. He immediately won 2 mvp's. This has literally NEVER happened before. Nash put up better stats at 36 than he did at 26, this has NEVER happened before.
Jeremy lin was an undrafted nerd who couldnt buy playing time. He got with the maestro d'antoni and had People on sohh arguung that the knicks should trade melo and build around lin. They argued that lin would be better than kyrie irving and john wall.
Kendall marshall finished 2nd in the ENTIRE NBA in assists per game
RAYMOND FELTON WAS AVERAGING 17 AND 9
Someone would have to be foolish to believe all of this is a coincidence. Every knowledgeable basketball fan has accepted the fact that d'antoni meant more to nash than nash meant to d'antoni.
Nba players openly discuss this
Every pg in the draft (lawson, steph curry, brandon jennings, etc) wanted to go to ny cuz they knew that d'antoni could make a decent pg look like a borderline allstar, and he could make a borderline all star look like a hall of famer.
I remember games where the corpse of baron davis had 10 assists in less than 20 minutes playing for d'antoni
I wish I could rep you twice
Who implied that they had a similar impact? All that stuff is irrelevant.
The point is that d'antoni system elevates every pg who plays in it and makes them look better than they are
29 year old nash was a 2 time all star before linking with d'gawdtoni. He immediately won 2 mvp's. This has literally NEVER happened before. Nash put up better stats at 36 than he did at 26, this has NEVER happened before.
Jeremy lin was an undrafted nerd who couldnt buy playing time. He got with the maestro d'antoni and had People on sohh arguung that the knicks should trade melo and build around lin. They argued that lin would be better than kyrie irving and john wall.
Kendall marshall finished 2nd in the ENTIRE NBA in assists per game
RAYMOND FELTON WAS AVERAGING 17 AND 9
Someone would have to be foolish to believe all of this is a coincidence. Every knowledgeable basketball fan has accepted the fact that d'antoni meant more to nash than nash meant to d'antoni.
Nba players openly discuss this
Every pg in the draft (lawson, steph curry, brandon jennings, etc) wanted to go to ny cuz they knew that d'antoni could make a decent pg look like a borderline allstar, and he could make a borderline all star look like a hall of famer.
I remember games where the corpse of baron davis had 10 assists in less than 20 minutes playing for d'antoni
I was coming in to talk about how felton was killin under dantoni.