Is the NFL fixed?

[L&HH]

I love reading about stuff like this. But if the NFL is fixed then why doesn't Marino have a ring? He was a golden boy QB if there ever was one. What about Buffalo losing all those SB's? The league couldn't give them atleast 1? I love this shyt though. Great thread.

The problem with this is the argument for fixing the NFL is multi-facet, for one it has gambling implications and on a larger scale its make the game more entertaining and brings more revenue. Just giving a player a ring just because their great and/or giving teams rings just because their good doesn't really do much for entertainment value, being that it's already an entertaining story in and of itself (you can argue that it it can have a certain "feel good" story to it, that a team or player finally achieves a presumably insurmountable goal). Stuff like the "Gruden Bowl", "The Harbaugh Bowl", NO post-Katrina, the "Patriots" post-911 are entertaining stories that watching public want to see.


An interesting storyline that's brewing along that ilk is the Redskin's name change. You have THE President of the nation commenting on it, Dan Snyder's neighbor recently trademarked a new name, if in fact they do change it it's going to be at the uproar of alot of the fans but the one way to dispell that bickering is to win...it's going to be interesting to watch how that plays out...

As a Redskins fan...I'll welcome it, we've suffered enough, I certainly know where my money is going to be if it happens

 

[Bomberman]

I love reading about stuff like this. But if the NFL is fixed then why doesn't Marino have a ring? He was a golden boy QB if there ever was one. What about Buffalo losing all those SB's? The league couldn't give them atleast 1? I love this shyt though. Great thread.

The thing with Marino is he's also went up against other legend QB's like Montana and Elway. Another thing to note though, in nearly all of the games Marino's team got eliminated he threw more INT's than TD's. Just like how people say "Team A overcame the refs this game," you can also say "Team B even with the refs lost." Another one that comes to mind is when NE had the unbeaten season and it was expected for them to go up against Peyton Manning and the Colts in the AFCCG the story line was nearly all set. The refs did everything they could to help Indy beat the Chargers at home. Throughout that whole game there were so many BS calls against SD, especially when they called a holding penalty on Eric Weddle that negated an Antonio Cromartie pick 6, but in the end they couldn't beat SD because SD was shredding them cleanly and pressure was getting to Manning consistently while the secondary rarely gave up anything. Some teams are just outright good or too good that day to let refs stop them. The same goes vice-versa, sometimes a team is outright bad or just awful that day to win even with the refs help.

When it comes to Buffalo, losing 4 straight SB's alone is a story, not to mention the last two helped the 90's Cowboys go mainstream.

 

[itsyoung!!]

I would say maybe before fantasy football but now with fantasy football and how popular gambling is getting then yeah.. I mean between Pete Rose with MLB and also we know for fact the NBA was rigged why is the NFL immune?? We already know it was some bull shyt with the raiders vs patriots a decade ago. Really a call thats never been made before or after but some how gets the patriots to the super bowl

 

[Absolut]

That Polamalu TD for instance is an example, it was a clear fumble, recovery touchdown. The play also has no implications on the final outcome of the game itself, Pitt would have won anyways. What it did change was the final score, which had Vegas implications,...70% picked Pitt -3, 100million on the line...doesn't seem like a coincidence to me

these figures always leave me with the face. what idiot randomly quoted "yeah they were 100 million high on the steeler bets" when the nevada RECORD super bowl handle is 98 million was it a 7 figure swing? sure. was it a low 8 figure swing? sure. maybe even an inspector gadget like reach it was a mid 8 figure swing. there is ZERO chance there was 100 mil that changed hands on some random ass steelers/chargers midseason football game. you can literally manufacture a storyline out of any game. that is the medias job. they will shove the fukking storyline down your throat, until you and the shyt you just took are interested in watching. thats what they do.

 

[L&HH]

these figures always leave me with the face. what idiot randomly quoted "yeah they were 100 million high on the steeler bets" when the nevada RECORD super bowl handle is 98 million was it a 7 figure swing? sure. was it a low, maybe even an inspector gadget like reach it was a mid 8 figure swing. there is ZERO chance there was 100 that changed hands on some random ass steelers/chargers midseason football game

Yeah that number jumped out to me as well. Idk I would like to see where he got those figures from, in any event that occurence is still suspect

 

[Bomberman]

Funny thing is with that Chargers-Steelers game, there probably was a stat released that week that brought up the fact that the Chargers have never won in Heinz Field. Joe Public thinking they had an edge probably pounded the Steelers -3 because of it.

I started to get weary about how stats like that pop out in the public during the week. Wouldn't be surprised if they mention the Cowboys are 7-1 against the spread going into next week. The Jags I think are 1-7, but that team is just that bad.

 

[Absolut]

you know where its from? probably that assclown rj bell. guy just throws out random figures, and the media eats that shyt up as gospel. dude was talking out of his ass about there being more bet on the coin flip worldwide than is bet in nevada on the super bowl game. the media ran with it saying more than 100 million is bet on the super bowl coin flip worldwide. even last year he said some dumb shyt about a billion dollars changing hands on the fail mary. do you know how much money a billion fukking dollars is? i will tell you for a fact, that there is NEVER a billion dollars at stake on ANY regular season nfl game. not even close

 

[L&HH]

you know where its from? probably that assclown rj bell. guy just throws out random figures, and the media eats that shyt up as gospel. dude was talking out of his ass about there being more bet on the coin flip worldwide than is bet in nevada on the super bowl game. the media ran with it saying more than 100 million is bet on the super bowl coin flip worldwide.

It's so funny you bring this up...I was just looking to place NFL future bets (AFC Champion based on this thread...all evidence points to either the colts, cheifs, broncos winning...Im going with colts vs broncos with broncos winning) but I couldnt find that shyt (seriously idk if it's me or other books are similar but fukk BetDSI but they are always missing wager options). But I saw some shyt called Super Bowl other and it was the coin flip, like ppl actually bet shyt like this?

 

[Absolut]

oh people bet it. we probably write 15-20k each year on the coin flip. maybe a half million is wagered worldwide on the coin flip. but somehow this guy rj bell became the medias sports betting source.

Heads or tails? Bettors worldwide are expected to wager $100 million on that coin toss outcome at the Super Bowl.

That's according to gambling expert R.J. Bell of Pregame.com, which tracks betting trends in casinos in Nevada and elsewhere.

the fukk?

 

[LucaBrasi]

..Nice read

 

[Pinyapplesuckas]

ive always felt like they sway the games in certain directions. i vividly remember when the Steelers were headed toward the first of their 2 most recent super bowls and the playoffs were CLEARLY set up for Peyton Manning and the Colts to head to the Super Bowl..

so many terrible calls and obvious fixed moments but somehow we still pulled it off..

fast forward to the actual Super Bowl and they did the same thing for us..i feel bad for Seattle fans because i could see it....

 

[Maschine_Man]

I think we should use this thread to monitor games and follow to see if there are any trends

watching storylines and spreads.

tonight the spread is 11 points for Seattle and St Louis.

 

[Maschine_Man]

If I'm a betting man, I'm taking the Rams tonight

lets see what happens....

 

[Deaf2twothirds]

The problem with this is the argument for fixing the NFL is multi-facet, for one it has gambling implications and on a larger scale its make the game more entertaining and brings more revenue. Just giving a player a ring just because their great and/or giving teams rings just because their good doesn't really do much for entertainment value, being that it's already an entertaining story in and of itself (you can argue that it it can have a certain "feel good" story to it, that a team or player finally achieves a presumably insurmountable goal). Stuff like the "Gruden Bowl", "The Harbaugh Bowl", NO post-Katrina, the "Patriots" post-911 are entertaining stories that watching public want to see.


An interesting storyline that's brewing along that ilk is the Redskin's name change. You have THE President of the nation commenting on it, Dan Snyder's neighbor recently trademarked a new name, if in fact they do change it it's going to be at the uproar of alot of the fans but the one way to dispell that bickering is to win...it's going to be interesting to watch how that plays out...

As a Redskins fan...I'll welcome it, we've suffered enough, I certainly know where my money is going to be if it happens

How about no Hosting Super Bowl city team has never made it to the Bowl within the same year they Host the big game in NFL History.

 

[L&HH]

How about no Hosting Super Bowl city team has never made it to the Bowl within the same year they Host the big game in NFL History.

you mean the team that hosts, doesnt make it?