Pharell's Blurred Lines Deposition [LEAKED]...EDIT: More parts added #ImNotComfortable

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hes not comfortable bc he doesnt know music theory :mjlol:
theyre trying to expose him and he got exposed. anyone who know the answers to those theory questions would answer it wit the quikness.
and him not being able to answer those questions proves that his opinion about anything theoretical with that song is NULL AND VOID.
he dont wtf hes talking bout. and all hes looking like is a BEAT BITER
 

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they copped to mimicking the song though. Thats the point

I can't see a jury just ignoring that...especially after Robin and Pharrell's testimonies...


Mimicking and copying are two different things. If that's the case DJ Mustard should sue the guys who composed "these hoes ain't loyal" and song for Natalie de La rose.
 

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I respect Marv, but I doubt he was really making music outside of singing. Just like James Brown. JB couldn't read music like that, but I bet he got production credits too.
Actually Marvin Gaye played piano, keyboards & drums and even started out as a session musician. No he couldn't read music but neither could/can most people. And yes he created the music and lyric for Got To Give It Up.
 

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Actually Marvin Gaye played piano, keyboards & drums and even started out as a session musician. No he couldn't read music but neither could/can most people. And yes he created the music and lyric for Got To Give It Up.
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hes not comfortable bc he doesnt know music theory :mjlol:
theyre trying to expose him and he got exposed. anyone who know the answers to those theory questions would answer it wit the quikness.
and him not being able to answer those questions proves that his opinion about anything theoretical with that song is NULL AND VOID.
he dont wtf hes talking bout. and all hes looking like is a BEAT BITER
Yeah but there is nothing wrong with being self-taught as long as your functional
 

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this is the thing though... there is absolutely NOTHING legally wrong with making derivative works. Thats why this case was a shocker, not because it was ever in doubt that marvin gaye was the inspiration behind this record... the shocker was that they won a case without any legal violation of anything... its still amazing hope the precedent doesnt stick

Well you are wrong. By definition a derivative work contains some element of a pre-existing copyrighted work. Publishing a derivative work requires permission of the original copyright owner. They failed to both get permission and properly give the Gaye estate any credit. And as you stated nobody is questioning whether this work was a derivative as pharell and thicke inadvertently admitted to it so the only question is how much credit and money does the gaye estate deserve from the profits of this derivative work.
 

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Yeah but there is nothing wrong with being self-taught as long as your functional
nope. but be self taught where you can show off you know an answer to a simple theoretical question. :yeshrug:
he didnt know what 6/8 time is and couldnt explain it. he wanted a girl to answer for him. smh
 

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they copped to mimicking the song though. Thats the point

I can't see a jury just ignoring that...especially after Robin and Pharrell's testimonies...



And thats the thing... you can mimick a song there is not law against mimicking shyt. ITs not illegal. Its not copyright infringement. That's why it was so unexpected a ruling. I can literally JACK your whole rhythm section and replay it and put a different melody over the top and its a different song. I can literally change the whole rhythm and instrumentation and arrangement and put the same melody over the top and its the same song. What I think as a layman or even as an expert musician is derivative has nothing to do with it... its did i or did i not sample a recording? no? ok... did i or did i not use the melody or and this is where judgement calls come in an interpolation of the the melody? no? ok... then you dont have a case... even if you did one of the previous 2 their is fair use clauses but thats judgement we dont even have to get into...

point blank the family didnt sue him for sampling the record, and they didnt sue him for taking a melody... they sued him for taking a 'feel'... they sued him for creativing something that is evocative of marvin gaye... and while its true that he did... its not illegal to do so...

but whatever, legal precedents change, i could care less about pharell having to pay money... i care only because now if i write a 'soul' song in 2015 I can be sued for taking the 'feel' of soul music... the music labels are ok with it for the same reason they are ok with sampling... only but 3 entities own over 90% of the rights to all recorded music... they can sue anyone who makes any new music in any pre existing genre... its bad for music as a whole... thats the only reason i care
 

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To help set up a "disco" atmosphere, Gaye hired Motown producer and engineer Art Stewart to oversee the song's production. Gaye and Stewart brought in several musicians and Gaye's friends, his brotherFrankie and girlfriend Janis Hunter, to Gaye's recording studio complex, Marvin's Room.


Sounds to me like some brehs and brehettes didnt get writing credits:mjpls:
That's how production used to work. One or two people come up with the lyrics, the basic chord structure & melody. And the producer takes what they came up with and rewrites it making it more elaborate and then brings in session musicians to play it. And yes improvisation by the session musicians was encouraged by the producer. But only the people who came up with the inital lyrics and chords were considered "Writers". Thing have definitely changed now.

Michael Jackson's Thriller was created like this.

Another More Modern Example



Written By: Stacy Ferguson & Toby Gad

Produced By: will.i.am
 

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That's how production used to work. One or two people come up with the lyrics, the basic chord structure & melody. And the producer takes what they came up with and rewrites it making it more elaborate and then brings in session musicians to play it. And yes improvisation by the session musicians was encouraged by the producer. But only the people who came up with the inital lyrics and chords were considered "Writers". Thing have definitely changed now.

Michael Jackson's Thriller was created like this.

Another More Modern Example



Written By: Stacy Ferguson & Toby Gad

Produced By: will.i.am

My point was I believe Marv didnt write or come up w/ the part that was stole, yet his family and nobody elses were able to sue and get guap.
 
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