Sacramento is not the Bay.
I didn't call Sacramento, The Bay...
never been to Sac but whats the median income there
Median Household income is $80,254, per capita is $40,502. Average Household size in Sacramento is 2.6 persons. The mhi of black homes in Sac is $60,338----->way more than it is in Oakland or San Fran...
There's no question that Sacramento has been the best place for black people in Northern California for probably at minimum going back post-Recession (2007-08), and if cats want to expand the conversation I'm more than okay with it and can provide hard data + strong anecdotal evidence to support this...
Sacramento is most likely the best city to be black in California outside of LA, period...
No, because my premise is based upon the tentacles (read this as "reach") of street influence from a place that isn't local. We have some Californians in here saying it isn't Sac who, respectfully, don't have the credibility to even speak towards this topic so they should sit this one out...
Oakland's reach isn't what it was and honestly it was never that large. Oakland's general cultural influence was always greater if nikkas wanna say that, but that is why I'm clarifying the intent of the thread because that isn't what it was about...
I met exactly three nikkas on the road in all my travels from Oakland who had some motion on the East Coast. nikkas can go thru my post history and see some of this shyt I've touched on before, this isn't new, I'm just making a specific thread as being back home has underscored some shyt I've always known. I've spoken about, shortly after I came home from prison in NC in 2009, I came back home (2010) and had a homie from West O who linked me in with pills I was dropping back off to NC. I've also said that I knew an NC nikka, circa 2015 to '16, who was directly plugged in with someone
really close to Phil, I've mentioned these before...
So nobody should read this as me saying Oakland cats not hustlers or have any reputation connecting cats. I'm clear, obviously I know there's been MANY people I've never known who have been touching shyt in different places. But I'm well traveled and was firsthand involved, so I knew plenty of other people who were involved and when you living that way for the length of time I was, you have a thousand conversations, people talk...
Oakland has no real gang influence anywhere outside East Bay towns. They turned out exactly one hood in Sacramento (G Parkway), but even then that neighborhood had a reputation years before Oakland cats came in the 2000s. I've never heard nowhere outside California jocking Oakland gangs, but there's nikkas around Atlanta somewhere claiming a Sacramento gang..
So Oakland has minimal gangbanging influence, and there's way more nikkas historically from Sacramento getting money elsewhere. And again,
respectfully, nikkas who have never been road runners should sit this conversation out. I know there's been "Bay" nikkas around Atlanta, Atlanta is friendly and there's been nikkas from everywhere getting money out there for generations. I know there's "Bay" nikkas who've gotten it in Nevada, nikkas from all over California been running it up in Nevada for generations...
So this isn't saying ain't no bag getters in Oakland or the Bay, but I am saying that the notion of Bay cats being more money oriented than other Californians isn't supported by real life movements, or, at the very least, is antiquated and outdated and hasn't applied to the recent past or present. Also, cats say "The Bay"which vaguely refers to seven counties and isn't Oakland specific, whereas nikkas can tell you Sacramento is where they tapped in at, or Los Angeles is where they tapped in at, without adding a grip of surrounding counties obscurely...
So you are proud that Sacramento is respected for drug dealing and other criminal activities and not anything productive? Jesus Christ.
I'm proud of a ton of shyt about Sacramento and have spoken on that many, many times. People know my post history, this thread just happens to be about the streets. Yes there is a source of pride in the criminal element because that was who I was for a long time but it isn't even close to being a main thing I'm proud of about Sacramento...
I would think it would be Oakland. But I’m not familiar with Cali streets like that
Oakland has more of a historical resonance. Not more of a modern one. So I guess it would be a tie at minimum, I wouldn't disagree with that...
