Adam Silver says NBA monitoring 'serious' tanking issue, claims they considered introducing relegation

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Feel like the best way to deter teams from tanking is to adjust the lottery even more.

Proposal: the lottery has 100 golf balls with the names of the 14 lottery teams.

The Top 10 (or worst 10 teams) get 8 golf balls each = 80% or 80 balls (10 x 8). The remaining 20 is split between the next 4 teams, so 5 balls each for 20% or 20 balls (4 x 5).

This way, the worst 10 squads each have an 8% chance and the next 4 have a 5% chance. Teams might tank to get into the lottery but being #1 vs #14 isn't that big of a difference.

Golf balls?

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Just eliminate the draft and make all incoming rookies free agents :mjgrin:

Wembanyama getting offered the max without playing a game :wow:

Or just have lottery teams make secret bids on how much they’re willing to pay for the top pick. You want it that bad, pay up :mjlit:


Go full-capitalist and auction off entire draft 1 by 1. No limit. :noah:
 

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Relegation would never work, even Silver knows it.

Let's say the worst team goes to G league... The G league best team has no kind of budget, nowhere near the worst NBA team.

Every bottom NBA team would have a trouble signing players for more than one season since they would be in danger of being sent to G league. The sponsors would also start leaving such team.

You would basically have a league with multiple very very bad teams and the playoff or fringe playoff teams signing every good player for longer contracts.
 

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Just leave it be.

Why is tanking so bad?

It's the only way to get a top prospect. Otherwise you'll be stuck being mediocre for a decade.

The Bulls wouldn't be a storied franchise if they weren't able to get a high pick in Michael Jordan after being bad.
and the funny thing is that getting the #1 overall pick almost never works out if you have title aspirations.

Paolo Banchero. Could be really good. Orlando is never gonna win a title with him.

Cade Cunningham. Has every skill known to man. Not winning a title in Detroit.

Zion this, Zion that. Only was Zion wins a title is if the Lakers gift wrap them the #1 overall pick so they have 2 of them.


All tanking does is give hope where it doesn't exist. Without it, fans don't have an incentive to cheer one way or the other, which is apathy, which is worse than having any emotion at all.
 

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and the funny thing is that getting the #1 overall pick almost never works out if you have title aspirations.

Paolo Banchero. Could be really good. Orlando is never gonna win a title with him.

Cade Cunningham. Has every skill known to man. Not winning a title in Detroit.

Zion this, Zion that. Only was Zion wins a title is if the Lakers gift wrap them the #1 overall pick so they have 2 of them.


All tanking does is give hope where it doesn't exist. Without it, fans don't have an incentive to cheer one way or the other, which is apathy, which is worse than having any emotion at all.
Well it's not supposed to guarantee a title, as we all know basketball is not a one man's show. The most recent ones are Bron and Kyrie who won a championship for their team and Bron don't even count like that since he left them first and came back later.
Even Tim Duncan was lucky he played with David Robinson, past his prime but still with all star numbers.
 

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I don’t think actual fans care that much about tanking. It’s easier to root for ping pong balls than some of the rosters that get out on a nightly basis. The people that care about tanking are Middle Aged reporters and people that call in to sports radio.

It’s interesting that OKC gets the most flack for tanking when KD, Russ, and PG all requested they be traded. Whereas Utah had a team regularly in the playoffs and they blew it up because Ainge said they don’t believe in each other.
 

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I think it's lazy. The Celtics ain't purposely tank. They made it work by making moves and ended up with Tatum and Jaylen. The Warriors didn't tank to get Steph or Klay. Milwaukee ain't tank for Giannis. I don't remember Memphis tanking for Ja. Same with Denver and Joker.

The percentage of actually being successful is not the home run it's made to seem vs trying to be a competent GM and make moves.
You must have revisionist history as Memphis did tank that year as they shut down Conley for the season and traded Marc Gasol to the Raptors. They just got lucky in the draft and jumped from 9th to 2nd to get Ja.

The Celtics is a bit disingenuous as well as they benefitted from Brooklyn being completely awful and inept that allowed them to get those players. They didn’t have to tank because Brooklyn essentially did it for them. They did it for Portland the year before that in helping them get Dame.

Those type of moves rarely have those type of outcomes.
 
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Basketballs problem is that one player can change the fortune of a franchise so much. A true superstar can take you from 25-30 wins to 50 wins and the 4th seed.

On top of that, the NBA tends to have a lot of relatively undeveloped talent when drafted. Guys have insane skills but built like twigs.....or guys built like a brickhouse that can't make 60% of their free throws. As such, outside of the obvious LeBron type brehs, projecting talent can be a crapshoot.

NBA teams don't seem to have the same eye for scouting that we see in the NFL. The Warriors know how to draft and it shows. Spurs were the same way at their peak. Lakers had some good young players but they have a historic tendency towards buying titles. You need a superstar to win big but you can at least lay the groundwork by drafting well instead of just tanking for years waiting.
 
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