Adam Silver says NBA monitoring 'serious' tanking issue, claims they considered introducing relegation

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I think it's lazy. The Celtics ain't purposely tank. They made it work by making moves and ended up with Tatum and Jaylen. The Warriors didn't tank to get Steph or Klay. Milwaukee ain't tank for Giannis. I don't remember Memphis tanking for Ja. Same with Denver and Joker.

The percentage of actually being successful is not the home run it's made to seem vs trying to be a competent GM and make moves.

Yes they did, the year they drafted Smart. They traded KG & Pierce for future draft capital, then when they were competitive to start the season they started trading players. They also tried to tank the next season but it backfired because of Isaiah Thomas. After that there was no need to tank because the Nets were a disaster and they could eat off them.



I don’t think actual fans care that much about tanking. It’s easier to root for ping pong balls than some of the rosters that get out on a nightly basis. The people that care about tanking are Middle Aged reporters and people that call in to sports radio.

It’s interesting that OKC gets the most flack for tanking when KD, Russ, and PG all requested they be traded. Whereas Utah had a team regularly in the playoffs and they blew it up because Ainge said they don’t believe in each other.

What’s funny is that Houston has had a worse record than OKC in each of the last two seasons and have also tanked but haven’t caught half of the flack :dead:
 
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Owners will never let this happen.

Also Silver clearly states in the article that relegation isn’t viable. Read the article
 
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part of me wishes they would get rid of the draft, fukk it. give the players freedom.

but i know as soon as a top 5 pick decided to sign with the warriors i'd be pissed lol.
 

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The same way they added play-in they should add a play-out for the #1 between the weakest teams
 

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Yes they did, the year they drafted Smart. They traded KG & Pierce for future draft capital, then when they were competitive to start the season they started trading players. They also tried to tank the next season but it backfired because of Isaiah Thomas. After that there was no need to tank because the Nets were a disaster and they could eat off them.





What’s funny is that Houston has had a worse record than OKC in each of the last two seasons and have also tanked but haven’t caught half of the flack :dead:
Right not to mention the magic, they have been in the lottery majority of the past decade, blown it up 3 times :dead:. Okc is trying to rebuild after their stars either asked for trades or left via fa. Fans want player mobility but don't want teams to be able to rebuild some dumb shyt lol
 

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Lol, nba owners wouldnt allow delegation.
This is one of his obsessions and its strange, especially since every team owns a gleague team, so you could have a ownership group with two teams in the nba which is a.conflict of interest in terms of faitness since the gleavues feed the nba team
 

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They have to work some kind of system where you...CANNOT get the first pick if you're the worst team. I feel that the draft should somehow reward bad teams that are at least trying to compete. There should be some minimum amount of games you have to win to even be considered as possibly landing the top pick. It rewards teams that are trying, gets the young kid to serious organizations and overall insures that flagrant tanking doesn't happen. Like if you win under 20 games you're just going to have to fnd other ways to improve.
 

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part of me wishes they would get rid of the draft, fukk it. give the players freedom.

but i know as soon as a top 5 pick decided to sign with the warriors i'd be pissed lol.
Could you have an independent commission come up with a top 32 ranking. And you can’t sign top 5 player in consecutive years. Or the draftable players can only negotiate with teams in the top 10 worst records.
 

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Why is it that the NBA is the only league where fans complain about tanking? If a bad team who has no shot at the playoffs wants to tank for a better pick then it is what it is. It won’t stop better teams from being competitive.
Who is going to support that team in the meantime? If you're not a sports city, they're not on TV, they're not moving merchandise, garnering no revenue...

Tanking is BS. you're rewarding purposely failing. And in the end, you're still not gonna hit that lottery that you expect.

You have to make moves to improve your roster. Even if you tank and get #1 you still have to make moves to improve your team on top of that, or else your projected superstar wants out in 2yrs.
 

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The same way they added play-in they should add a play-out for the #1 between the weakest teams
problem with something like this imo is then you got players basically playing for the team to draft their replacement, not sure what level of effort you getting for that either :jbhmm:
 

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They have to work some kind of system where you...CANNOT get the first pick if you're the worst team. I feel that the draft should somehow reward bad teams that are at least trying to compete. There should be some minimum amount of games you have to win to even be considered as possibly landing the top pick. It rewards teams that are trying, gets the young kid to serious organizations and overall insures that flagrant tanking doesn't happen. Like if you win under 20 games you're just going to have to fnd other ways to improve.
you can try all you want and still be trash. I've never understood why NBA pundits believe that a bad team is bad because they didn't try hard enough. You could just have a major talent deficit. You could have a green ass team. How many years have we seen those "can this undefeated college team beat an NBA team" talk only for everyone to laugh it off? Well, you got a team like OKC that's basically just a bunch of 24 and younger guys. Regardless of how much talent they may possess, they're gonna struggle.

to counter your last point, if you're find playing really hard in April and still losing and winding up drafting 9th every year, how serious are you about winning a title one day? Think about it. Everyone's been begging the Utah's and San Antonio's and previously, the OKC's to blow it up, forget the play-in and start over. Now that they are we wanna change how they can get better talent? Sounds more like we don't even want them to try to get better.
 

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you can try all you want and still be trash. I've never understood why NBA pundits believe that a bad team is bad because they didn't try hard enough. You could just have a major talent deficit. You could have a green ass team. How many years have we seen those "can this undefeated college team beat an NBA team" talk only for everyone to laugh it off? Well, you got a team like OKC that's basically just a bunch of 24 and younger guys. Regardless of how much talent they may possess, they're gonna struggle.

to counter your last point, if you're find playing really hard in April and still losing and winding up drafting 9th every year, how serious are you about winning a title one day? Think about it. Everyone's been begging the Utah's and San Antonio's and previously, the OKC's to blow it up, forget the play-in and start over. Now that they are we wanna change how they can get better talent? Sounds more like we don't even want them to try to get better.

OKC CHOSE to go that route. No one forced them to have only young inexperienced kids on their squad. Pretty sure there's veterans out there, players that have been to college for 3 or 4 years with more NBA-ready bodies, players in the G-League, overseas, etc. No one forced them to basically have a NCAA team in the NBA. They chose those players. And that's my point : they chose those players because they don't want to be good too fast. Did they even TRY To get some good solid veterans this summer? Did they even try to package some of their draft picks and young players to bring in a couple of actual NBA players with experience? They want to keep on being bad in order to keep up getting those young talented players through the draft until they feel they got the right mix to start taking games seriously. Exactly like the Sixers did. They chose to be bad long before training camp even started.

As to the bolded I'm personally not a fan at all of this whole "NBA title or blow it up" mentality. Never have been never will be. So what "everyone" is telling Utah etc to do doesn't affect me because that's not my opinion on the matter. I still don't understand why Utah let both Gobert AND Mitchell go. The whole reasoning of "let's suck for 3 or 4 years" being somehow better than "let's be an average team for 3 or 4 years" makes no sense to me.
 

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Who is going to support that team in the meantime? If you're not a sports city, they're not on TV, they're not moving merchandise, garnering no revenue...

Tanking is BS. you're rewarding purposely failing. And in the end, you're still not gonna hit that lottery that you expect.

You have to make moves to improve your roster. Even if you tank and get #1 you still have to make moves to improve your team on top of that, or else your projected superstar wants out in 2yrs.
Because they have no shot at the playoffs? The season is a wash so F it. Come back better next season.
 
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