All these years later and I'm still DISGUSTED at Nas for signing to Jay-Z

[TillWeDie]

He wanted to help alleviate the chronic effects of Etheritis

 

[AMcV'88]

shyt didn't matter any way you slice it.

if Jay wanted, he had a say in Nas album, could sit in all the meetings, could be part of the roll out etc. I doubt he did though because he was too busy in the midst of putting out his own trash album.

Aint much difference from Cam did with Def Jam when he was leaving and wanted to take Juelz with him.
Juelz became a priority because he was one of the few artists who were young and had buzz so Cam dealt with LA Reid instead of Jay.

Jay still had to sign off on it

 

[Life is Good]

Jay Z, who was involved in doling out budgets at Def Jam, was a "figure head" with no real power who had zero to do with acquiring a major artist? Come on fam. I worked at Interscope, I know how this goes. A lot of artists were unhappy with Jay Z during his tenure. If he was just a figure head, no one would have complained.

I'm not saying Jay Z was the point man for the negotiations. LA Reid was the real boss, we know this. But to say he was a figure head who had nothing to do with nothing is factually wrong.

None of this is even a criticism of Nas, so I don't understand why you're pressed. He got a GREAT deal. At a time when brehs weer complaining about the budgets that Hov was handing out, Nas got budgets that were separate from his advance...the type of deal major pop stars or r&b stars might get. He even got a big ass mixtape marketing plan. Nas is not the loser in this equation. Denying Hov had any role in this shyt is just nonsense.

Listen fam I don’t have to deny anything bc it’s a fact. Nas didn’t have to go to Jayz for a damn thing. So you can believe what you want. Nas never had an issue with Jayz bc Jayz didn’t decide anything pertaining to Nas.

 

[Cladyclad]

I won’t rest til u on one knee


He called Def Jam & Hov the devil like 3 years prior to signing. I guess the money he received erased the devil out of them.

 

[Piff Perkins]

Listen fam I don’t have to deny anything bc it’s a fact. Nas didn’t have to go to Jayz for a damn thing. So you can believe what you want. Nas never had an issue with Jayz bc Jayz didn’t decide anything pertaining to Nas.

You guys keep mixing emotion and phrases that mean nothing...with business. No one said Nas "had to go to Jay-Z" for anything. You keep making this sound like a subservient relationship when literally nobody (outside of haters) would claim that's the case. It was a business. Jay-Z was the president and had heavy influence on a variety of decisions at the time...including budgets, marketing ideas, and artist acquisition. Securing an artist of Nas' caliber was important. Hell, Hov played a major role in signing The Roots to Def Jam and ensuring Game Theory became what it is...yet you're gonna tell me he had nothing to add to NAS signing to the label?

 

[Cladyclad]

All I know is Nas could signed to anywhere but signed with Hov lol

Jay even had Nas introduce him as the God Mc on 106 & Park

 

[Life is Good]

You guys keep mixing emotion and phrases that mean nothing...with business. No one said Nas "had to go to Jay-Z" for anything. You keep making this sound like a subservient relationship when literally nobody (outside of haters) would claim that's the case. It was a business. Jay-Z was the president and had heavy influence on a variety of decisions at the time...including budgets, marketing ideas, and artist acquisition. Securing an artist of Nas' caliber was important. Hell, Hov played a major role in signing The Roots to Def Jam and ensuring Game Theory became what it is...yet you're gonna tell me he had nothing to add to NAS signing to the label?

“Mixing emotions and phrases that mean nothing”. Is exactly what you are doing. So on that note I’ll let you continue with your false theory of Jayz’s heavy influence in signing Nas.

 

[L. Deezy]

Jay didnt shelve Nas... that couldve been his biggest revenge. But no, he had to sit on his hooves and let Nas get his paper LA said he would give him. Nas got 6 million for his first two albums.

@Cladyclad dude..stfu

 

[The Dust King]

Jay-Z had heavy influence on a variety of decisions at the time...including budgets, marketing ideas, and artist acquisition.

can you prove any of this?

im asking because your claim about nas is 100% incorrect. your stating jayz was nas boss which wasnt true at all.

a boss is defined as a person in control of a worker. how could nas be a worker if the head of the label makes special deals for him?

if jay was nas boss then nas would have to check in with him. he didnt.

the reason the deal even happened was because mark pitts was nas manager and used to be BIGs manager so he knew jayz and felt like his presence was enough to squash it (which it was)


https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/65356/jay-z-named-def-jam-presidentceo

Jay-Z -- artist, producer and entrepreneur -- has been named president and CEO of Def Jam Recordings. He will report directly to Antonio "LA" Reid, chairman of the Island Def Jam Music Group.

if jayz reports to la reid, and nas reports to la reid.............

then what jayz said was true.

you cant sign an artist of nas caliber. you can only partner with him.

 

[spliz]

You guys keep mixing emotion and phrases that mean nothing...with business. No one said Nas "had to go to Jay-Z" for anything. You keep making this sound like a subservient relationship when literally nobody (outside of haters) would claim that's the case. It was a business. Jay-Z was the president and had heavy influence on a variety of decisions at the time...including budgets, marketing ideas, and artist acquisition. Securing an artist of Nas' caliber was important. Hell, Hov played a major role in signing The Roots to Def Jam and ensuring Game Theory became what it is...yet you're gonna tell me he had nothing to add to NAS signing to the label?

Fam. The only one mixing emotions is you. Jay, Nas, and LA Reid THEMSELVES have said how this situation worked. Nas himself has disputed this shyt plenty of time. UR going off of opinions and emotions rather than by the words of the people directly involved. Bottom line is that Nas wasn’t just some regular ass artist on Def Jam. And Jay couldn’t have influenced moves on Nas’ behalf because he would’ve gotten CURVED by HIS boss at the time. He would’ve been going against the interest of HIS boss. Regardless of how bossy u feel Jay was. It was HIS bosses that made the call for Nas in the first place. And he wouldn’t have been able to override that.

 

[Bed$tuy]

 

[Cladyclad]

Jay didnt shelve Nas... that couldve been his biggest revenge. But no, he had to sit on his hooves and let Nas get his paper LA said he would give him. Nas got 6 million for his first two albums.

@Cladyclad dude..stfu

Why u mad at me for saying factual shyt lol

I don’t lie about nas. It’s nothing I said was wrong lol

 

[The Connoisseurs]

I won’t rest til u on one knee


He called Def Jam & Hov the devil like 3 years prior to signing. I guess the money he received erased the devil out of them.

“Queens ...... RUN you ....., ask Russell Simmons”





All fax no fixtion

 

[Piff Perkins]

can you prove any of this?

im asking because your claim about nas is 100% incorrect. your stating jayz was nas boss which wasnt true at all.

a boss is defined as a person in control of a worker. how could nas be a worker if the head of the label makes special deals for him?

if jay was nas boss then nas would have to check in with him. he didnt.

the reason the deal even happened was because mark pitts was nas manager and used to be BIGs manager so he knew jayz and felt like his presence was enough to squash it (which it was)


Jay-Z Named Def Jam President/CEO



if jayz reports to la reid, and nas reports to la reid.............

then what jayz said was true.

What are you guys talking about man. Def Jam is a business. It's run like any other corporation. The CEO/president reports to the board or chairman, in this case LA Reid. The CEO/president is the chief executive and runs the company, maximizing value and revenue. When things go well, he reports to the chairman. When things go bad, he reports to the chairman. This is business 101 stuff.

Nas is an artist. He was signed to Def Jam as an artist. He didn't have equity in the company, he wasn't signed with a co-management deal. He was signed as an artist. Meanwhile the CEO/president runs the label's daily operations and decisions. You know, like signing artists, approving budgets, working on marketing, etc. To say Jay-Z, the CEO/president, had nothing to do with any of this is pure ducktales that defies decades of corporate structure and history. If you want to get riled up over the "boss" word who fukking cares man. It's childish. The point is that Jay-Z was running Def Jam, and Nas signed to Def Jam. The only person who reported to LA Reid (the chairman) was Jay Z, the CEO/president. Because that's how corporations work, man.

Brehs here have spent too much time listening to Dame Dash and getting business terms mixed up. Worker, boss, whatever. fukk that. Nas was a prized free agent and signed to a label. As I said, if this is sports...Nas is the player, Hov is the GM, and LA Reid is the owner. There are no disses here or slights. Nas signed a great fukking deal. Hov lasted a couple years at Def Jam before bouncing and doing his own thing.

 

[Cladyclad]

“Queens ...... RUN you ....., ask Russell Simmons”





All fax no fixtion

Another line that made no damn sense lol