Are black people against learning trades?

[IWunD3r]

Majority of blk men wrk blue collar job, and always had

 

[Guru]

do you need any experience in these fields before you can take these classes or can you be a total beginner?

Nah just a willingness to learn... The contractor at the school was telling me that he gets a lot of inexperienced dudes that end up finishing the program over guys that have huge family backgrounds in the trades all because they really have dedication to do it. Hands on work is much more complicated than seems especially for people who've relied on technology most their life to do everything for them

 

[IWunD3r]

Black women's panties don't get wet when they hear that a nikka is a plumber.

Pro athlete, rapper, doctor, lawyer, engineer. Those things get the panties wet.

Most nikkas aren't trying to put in the work to be doctor, lawyer or engineer.

So, everyone tries to hoop or rap.

We need more Black people in the trades. We could corner the market the way Indians have in medicine, engineering, etc.

Alotta BLACK women I know are married to carpenters, plumbers, electricans, mechanics, construction wrkers ..

Where some of u nikkas posting from?

Mars

 

[Deflatedhoopdreams]

What I'm about to say is fukked up, but I do want to be honest. I'll use my personal experience, and then I'll talk about society view ( from my perspective).

Personally growing up I had no choice but to go to college. My mother went to college( BA, MS) and my father attended college as well ( A.A.S). So telling my parents " I want to go to trade school", is a big to them. Is it fair? Nope. But it is the truth. My parents look at trade school like they look at for profit degrees not worth it. So if I told my parents I wanted to go to a trade school, it would be a huge let down for them. I remember joking about dropping out of high school and going to trade school ( just trolling my mom's) and she literally gave me the and the speech. Again, I'm just speaking on my perspective growing up; Personally speaking, I think trade schools are a respectable alternative to colleges/universities; But where I grew up, it just wouldn't work.

Also you have to factor in the environment people grew up in. I grew up in Laurelton Queens and Fresh Meadows Queens. Telling your classmates and friends I'm going to trade school instead of college is just not worth it. The reason I'm bringing my story into this, is because I feel like a lot of black people come from this same exact scenario, whether they want to admit it or not. I hope I don't come off as being too harsh, but I just want to be honest.

Secondly In NYC, college is pushed down your throat so much that anything different is looked at negatively. I went to two high schools, St Francis prep ( private), and Flushing HS ( Public); both schools pushed college heavily. It may have been different colleges, Flushing HS ( CUNY) or ST.Francis prep ( Private universities), but the mission was clear, you must go to a college. You can't even graduate from Flushing HS without filling out a college application/forum. Is it fair? Nope. But that's life. Maybe it's just a NYC mentality, but it is what it is..


In the end I hope more people do go into trades. It would be nice to hire a black plumber or electrician.

Yeah we came from the same type of background breh. My mom saved my whole life for me to go to college and I graduated high school with at 3.2ish in all advance and college prep classes. If I would have told her I was going to trade school out of high school it would have broke her heart.

My dad is a carpenter and owns his own business. And now that I'm a commercial and industrial Electrician making good money whatever. He still be like ("you still slavin'". He went through that so I wouldn't have to go through that but it all came full circle after some bumps in the road

 

[PhonZhi]

90 replies. What's the SOLUTION???

The solution is that black people need more of OUR OWN media. That would help to sway our own mindset. The black youth are constantly flooded with stereotypical images of themselves (rappers, athletes) as what "success" is. We need more media promoting different trades and areas that most black people wouldn't identify with black people. Areas like farming and heavy equipment operators. The youth needs to see black people represented in other areas besides entertainment. Like @Blackout said, they aren't AGAINST these things, they just aren't aware that these avenues are viable options since they never see other black people filling these roles.

 

[Deflatedhoopdreams]

Then you probably have an apprenticeship which are usually 5 years. I'm going to a trade school which most of the time only run for like 6 to 7 months then afterwards I'll get a job in the union or an opportunity at an apprenticeship.

Which trade are you doing?

Oh okay. I'm already in the union from day one. I'm Commericial Electrician in the IBEW/JATC

Very selective program.

 

[Blackout]

Alotta BLACK women I know are married to carpenters, plumbers, electricans, mechanics, construction wrkers ..

Where some of u nikkas posting from?

Mars

That depends on the area. My area agrees with you but some areas like mainly city ones are more white collar, office prioritized so tradesman arent known much in the younger gen.

 

[Guru]

Alotta BLACK women I know are married to carpenters, plumbers, electricans, mechanics, construction wrkers ..

Where some of u nikkas posting from?

Mars

Maybe I'm stereotyping a bit but where I'm from and being around construction sites a lot for past like 4 years it seemed a lot the workers where either White or Hispanic. If I saw a brother working on a site it was basically grunt work (e.g.. picking up bricks, moving cement, dumping heavy materials away etc..) never any of the technical jobs. I live in NYC btw...

 

[BrandonBanks]

Majority of blk men wrk blue collar job, and always had

Older black men, yes, my generation, no

 

[Rawtid]

Also in MD they have apprenticeship programs for no cost but they test for drugs. A lot of nikkas don't apply because of that.

 

[Eastside Get The Money]

I think Americans in general look down on trades. My dad always told me learn a trade and I always hit him with the

Trades are how any country survives real talk. Skills are very valuable. I'm thinking about learning something, every man should be a master at something.

Is there any open source free class for trades like coursera or khan academy?

 

[Tom Foolery]

I went to an orientation for this HVAC school that I'm joining and saw nothing but white faces. It kind of surprised me too because the school is in a rough part of town and didn't expect CAC's to travel into area like this just to go to school and mind you I visited several different trade programs before this one and saw about 8 other black people in total out of like 200 White folks mixed with some Hispanics but anyways it got me thinking about why nikkas don't ever consider trades. More often than not whenever you got a faulty leak, messed up wiring, no heat or cold air running through your house etc... it's always either a CAC or a Hispanic coming to fix it. I don't understand it trade schools cost less than regular colleges, there's even community colleges that offer courses on Plumbing, HVAC, Welding, Electrical etc... you can try for apprenticeships (although their harder to get into). It can help the black community if more of us became tradesmen, we'd create our own trade businesses then hire black folks and teach them the trade or at least that's what I'm going to do... What's the reason for this? Why don't black parents urge their kids to learn a trade more rather than getting a degree?

Let's Discuss...

How did you find out about this.

 

[Blackout]

Maybe I'm stereotyping a bit but where I'm from and being around construction sites a lot for past like 4 years it seemed a lot the workers where either White or Hispanic. If I saw a brother working on a site it was basically grunt work (e.g.. picking up bricks, moving cement, dumping heavy materials away etc..) never any of the technical jobs. I live in NYC btw...

Lack of construction interest and lack of black construction businesses and low amount of black people in construction to pull in our own is because of that. Mexicans taking over the scene as well.

Where Im at there was this company who had a black boss who rose to the top and hired mostly black people.

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

I think Americans in general look down on trades. My dad always told me learn a trade and I always hit him with the

Trades are how any country survives real talk. Skills are very valuable. I'm thinking about learning something, every man should be a master at something.

Is there any open source free class for trades like coursera or khan academy?

Lol you gotta do the physicals

 

[Guru]

Older black men, yes, my generation, no

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