Are black women holding black men to unrealistic standards compared to white standards of relationships?

Neuromancer · Oct 2, 2023

I guess it depends. Do you mean standards that are harder for us to me due to the system being set up the way it is? Or something else?

™BlackPearl The Empress™ · Oct 2, 2023

FTBS said:
I was talking about men and women working together not patriarchy.

There have always and will always be lonely men. That doesnt mean women aint gettin theirs. Traditionally, rich/powerful men had concubines snd multiple wives. That leaves other men lacking so that aint new. I am talking about women interacting with, entertaining, and fukking men.

Please dont "yall" me. I speak for me only.

Well if you can't have a general conversation and expect me to treat you as an except then the conversation isn't going anywhere.

Can you rephase the question so you can get the answer you are looking for?

Rakim Allah · Oct 2, 2023

LadyJ2 said:
So you’re saying black women are taking money that should go to black men?

Black women and white women have been doing that since the 70s, friend.

Peachstate · Oct 2, 2023

Thanos said:
White Men are the face of rich in the West.

And be that as it may, most bw still prefer bm.

FTBS · Oct 2, 2023

™BlackPearl The Empress™ said:
Well if you can't have a general conversation and expect me to treat you as an except then the conversation isn't going anywhere.

Can you rephase the question so you can get the answer you are looking for?

We can have a general convo. I am not going to lump you in with other women though. I just ask for the same respect.

You said women were moving away from men. Are younger women doing this? Re: Divorce data- Women gotta be getting with and marrying dudes in the first place in order to get a divorce.

In your opinion is the disconnect that you are referencing a matter of nature where humans have been this way but were forced to work together by circumstance/culture or is it a result archiac beliefs/expectations no longer being propogated/met and people lacking the awareness, fortitude, and discipline to pivot?

™BlackPearl The Empress™ · Oct 2, 2023

FTBS said:
We can have a general convo. I am not going to lump you in with other women though. I just ask for the same respect.

You said women were moving away from men. Are younger women doing this? Re: Divorce data- Women gotta be getting with and marrying dudes in the first place in order to get a divorce.

In your opinion is the disconnect that you are referencing a matter of nature where humans have been this way but were forced to work together by circumstance/culture or is it a result archiac beliefs/expectations no longer being propogated/met and people lacking the awareness, fortitude, and discipline to pivot?

You literally just copy and pasted the question. I already answered the question in the manner in which it's posed. I actually answered in the posts before you even asked the question.

I gave you quite a few examples not sure why you only spoke to 1. Add marriage data in there if you want and oow births. Look at the studies of the amount of women who have been married and have no desire to be remarried. I mean it's pretty obvious.

You seem to just be disagreeable for the sake of it. If you don't agree cool. The world keeps moving whether you agree or not.

Rakim Allah · Oct 2, 2023

Actually6Foot3 said:
This is what happens when there is zero societal pressure to be married unfortunately.

60 years ago you’d be a fukking weirdo outcast if you were 30 and never married. Now it’s a normal every day thing

60 years ago men overall where much more gainfully employed and were making house buying wages for that time, friend.

FTBS · Oct 2, 2023

™BlackPearl The Empress™ said:
You literally just copy and pasted the question. I already answered the question in the manner in which it's posed. I actually answered in the posts before you even asked the question.

I gave you quite a few examples not sure why you only spoke to 1. Add marriage data in there if you want and oow births. Look at the studies of the amount of women who have been married and have no desire to be remarried. I mean it's pretty obvious.

But those things all require them moving towards men first. Thats why I am asking about younger women. Its pretty obvious why an older woman that has been through shyt and got her money together would move away.

Rakim Allah · Oct 2, 2023

Peachstate said:
Only if you have children, which most bw don't.

According the CDC, 62% of Black females 15-49 have children, friend.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr179.pdf

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr113.pdf

Rakim Allah · Oct 2, 2023

™BlackPearl The Empress™ · Oct 2, 2023

FTBS said:
But those things all require them moving towards men first. Thats why I am asking about younger women. Its pretty obvious why an older woman that has been through shyt and got her money together would move away.

Most women move towards men first because that is what is pushed to you. It doesn't matter if you are young or old. It's just that younger women are getting it a lot sooner.

We haven't reached the point where women in mass are just entering adulthood with no desire for men. Most women at least give it a shot although we have seen a rise a lebianism and bisexuality in young women in the last decade.

More than one in 10 young women in UK identify as lesbian, gay, bisexual or other

Of females aged 16-24, 11.4% said they were lesbian, gay, bisexual or other in annual ONS population survey

www.theguardian.com

And for the record, moving away from men isn't about lebianism. But it's a good gage to show a shift in the mindsets of young women.

This one isn't specific to women but it does show that 1 in 5 Genz identify as something other than heterosexual. As the patriarchy desolves a lot of truth are coming out. But that is another discussion.

LGBT Identification in U.S. Ticks Up to 7.1%

The percentage of U.S. adults who identify as lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender has increased to 7.1%. This is driven by high LGBT self-identification, particularly as bisexual, among Generation Z adults.

news.gallup.com

Rakim Allah · Oct 2, 2023

Peachstate said:
I'm traditional and I live in a patriarchal society. I, and maybe other women, have a visceral disdain for the idea of supporting a man. 70k/50k is tolerable, but a large gap? Hell no. And given the fact that women take on more of the household/parenting/emotional labor in a marriage, what is she gaining in this scenario?

Are you sure, friend?

Peachstate · Oct 2, 2023

Rakim Allah said:
According the CDC, 62% of Black females 15-49 have children, friend.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr179.pdf

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr113.pdf

Percentage of childless women, by ethnic group U.S. 2020 | Statista

In 2020, about 44.7 percent of Black women were childless in the United States.

www.statista.com

This says 55% unless I'm reading it wrong. I was still off

Peachstate · Oct 2, 2023

Rakim Allah said:
Are you sure, friend?

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I don't watch random YouTube links. Do you have an article?

Rakim Allah · Oct 2, 2023

Peachstate said:
Percentage of childless women, by ethnic group U.S. 2020 | Statista

In 2020, about 44.7 percent of Black women were childless in the United States.

www.statista.com

This says 55% unless I'm reading it wrong. I was still off

The majority of Black women have kids, but it’s a minority of Black women (36%) that are never married single mothers, friend.

Are black women holding black men to unrealistic standards compared to white standards of relationships?

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