Black Rob needs help.
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The fact that deals today are worse doesn't mean that deals back then weren't fukked up.
The way he was pleading to D-Dot and them to give him a call was 
Young artists need to watch shyt like this and learn from it. Bad decisions, doing dumb shyt, substance abuse and bad business moves will straight jacket your life.
Young artists need to watch shyt like this and learn from it. Bad decisions, doing dumb shyt, substance abuse and bad business moves will straight jacket your life.
We discuss the shady business practices of record labels and have this image of a cac robbing us but in hip-hop too often it's the same dude yelling "we all we got...black excellence... ownership.." but proceed to pillage creators for their work and then blame them for being too trusting or not knowing enough about the business when they are the business...can't have it both ways..you either are an asset or a liability to the advancement of us a a people
These deals were indeed standard back then. They were also a way to enslave artists. Ten albums is more than the average artists career (the average life span of a rappers career back then were three years). This meant that aspiring artists were offered a deal on unfavorable terms and since they weren't famous yet, they had to take it, since all major labels offered these deals to new artists. Owing the label ten albums meant that they couldn't renegotiate the terms of their deals before they delivered these ten albums. And if the artists complained or tried to renegotiate, or asked about what happened to their royalties, the label could simply shelve their projects, which effectively blackballed them, because their label wasn't putting out their projects and other labels couldn't sign them, or had to buy out their contract for large sums of money, since the artists still owed their label x amounts of albums.
These types of deals were one among the many shady practices labels employed to exploit artists. People defending this are either retarded or working for a record label.
Breh, 10 albums? First of all, how many rappers from the 90s-00s have 10 albums. Most top out at 2 maybe 3. Now you're in debt to Diddy. Probably why Mase retired the way he did. He did 2 albums. Probably under contract for several more, while making hits and not seeing the proper money.
Plus 45K per album....BEFORE taxes. He's lucky to get 30K.
You gotta remember, EVERYBODY was going gold or platinum back then. In that era, 1 hit song might make the label $5-6 million dollars, then say he had a 2nd hit single, then a 3rd moderate hit. Label ifs making $10 mil, he's getting 30K from his album sales, plus advances he has to recoup or pay back. That's not even excusable. Puff is a supreme snake.
breh, Puff has a history of this. Look at Mase, when dudes get desperate, they go BACK to Puff for crumbs and he gives them a little bit. Then it turns bad again. Then they go back again, they have a bad boy reunion tour. Little more dough. But never enough.
He had an white female girl-band called Dream. They were making some noise with 2 hit songs, a platinm album, then they fell apart. Who messes that up?
Pegasus Jackson
Trump's Amerikkka
The way he was pleading to D-Dot and them to give him a call was
Young artists need to watch shyt like this and learn from it. Bad decisions, doing dumb shyt, substance abuse and bad business moves will straight jacket your life.
Vicious cycle.. you gonna see videos with Lil Xan and Lil Gwop like this in 10 years.
TheDarceKnight
Veteran
In the grand scheme.. its still recoupable as hell tho.. a single nowadays clears that easily. Whoa is so big bro..he could still make money of it if he had the right publishing company. Remake the song for sports channels like ESPN.. so many ways he can get back in the game. The nygga still calling for Ddot..lol. that tells you right there how out the loop he is.
IsThatBrothaMouzone?
Superstar
I would guess that just about any successful music exec is shady as hell.
It kind of makes sense when you think about it.
For every 10 rappers that a breh like Puffy signs, 1 might become a superstar, 2 or 3 might be solid for a minute and then the rest fall flat. My ratios might be off but I imagine he's lucky to bat .300 unless he's extra careful about who he signs to deals.
The 3/10 that are successful gotta finance the other 7 that don't make it. If you come from nothing and someone offers nice clothes, a couple of nice rides, a decent house and some pocket change....you think you're balling. They'll tell you "everything is covered and we treat our artists first class" but charge you for all of it. It would be like if Jerry Jones or Robert Kraft charged the players for using the film study room, practice time on the field, weight room visits, getting treated by the trainers, flying on the team plane etc. NFL players would look like recording artists.
You gotta be a bit gully to make it in music. Can't trust anyone and have a damn good lawyer in your back pocket.
It kind of makes sense when you think about it.
For every 10 rappers that a breh like Puffy signs, 1 might become a superstar, 2 or 3 might be solid for a minute and then the rest fall flat. My ratios might be off but I imagine he's lucky to bat .300 unless he's extra careful about who he signs to deals.
The 3/10 that are successful gotta finance the other 7 that don't make it. If you come from nothing and someone offers nice clothes, a couple of nice rides, a decent house and some pocket change....you think you're balling. They'll tell you "everything is covered and we treat our artists first class" but charge you for all of it. It would be like if Jerry Jones or Robert Kraft charged the players for using the film study room, practice time on the field, weight room visits, getting treated by the trainers, flying on the team plane etc. NFL players would look like recording artists.
You gotta be a bit gully to make it in music. Can't trust anyone and have a damn good lawyer in your back pocket.
