Cavs is retarded to trade Love...

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

He didn't . Love has been shooting 3s.

Except Love is much more than a spot-up 3-pt shooter, which is what he's getting at.

 

[FTBS]

Except Love is much more than a spot-up 3-pt shooter, which is what he's getting at.

Assist since it appears you missed this.

He didn't . Love has been shooting 3s. Only difference now is fewer touches in general because he is...wait for it...the 3rd option as opposed to a 1st option. Most guys don't reach their full potential as 3rd options.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

All things considered, Love played extremely well in the Finals. Dude hustled his ass off on defense all series long (he contested more shots than any other Cavs player, led the team in steals - almost twice the amount of any other teammate, led= the team in blocks, led= the series in charges drawn, most active Cavs frontcourt player on the PnR and defending in the paint) and tried to make most of what little opportunities he had on offense.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Assist since it appears you missed this.

I didn't miss anything.

Being the third option doesn't mean you have to take a role as a spot-up 3-pt shooter. He could've been utilized better - he had the ball in his hands for the same amount of time that Livingston did in the Finals, despite playing twice as many minutes. That's the ultimate difference between the two teams; the wealth is spread evenly throughout the GS rotation, whereas TWO players control almost all of the possessions for Cleveland.

 

[FTBS]

I didn't miss anything.

Being the third option doesn't mean you have to take a role as a spot-up 3-pt shooter. He could've been utilized better - he had the ball in his hands for the same amount of time that Livingston did in the Finals, despite playing twice as many minutes. That's the ultimate difference between the two teams; the wealth is spread evenly throughout the GS rotation, whereas TWO players control almost all of the possessions for Cleveland.

Third options gotta get in where they fit in . The ultimate difference between the two teams is the fact that GSW plays defense. Love having the ball more (against guys that can defend him without help) doesn't do anything for the Cavs defense.

 

[ISO]

The problem is that any player they get Lebron is going to demand they do what love does...rebound, try to play defense, and stand at the 3 point line...

Did it with Bosh...Did it with Love...going to do it with however they get...

LeBron don't stop Kyrie from doing his thing, LeBron didn't stop Wade from doing his thing (injuries got to Wade and he declined a bit)...

It's a big 3, Love has to sacrifice he is the third wheel do y'all not get that? As a big man he isn't a play initiator so his touches have dropped, the Cavs usually let him get his post touches to get him going to start the game and Love keeps the floor spread, while being a stretch big and elite rebounder.

Bosh had to sacrifice and extend his range to the three point line and focus on P&R defense for the good of the team. That's how it is, KG never averaged 20 a game on Boston after averaging 22.5 a game on Minny before the trade.

I don't think they should trade Love either, they should be looking to trade TT and Shumpert.

 

[FTBS]

LeBron don't stop Kyrie from doing his thing, LeBron didn't stop Wade from doing his thing (injuries got to Wade and he declined a bit)...

It's a big 3, Love has to sacrifice he is the third wheel do y'all not get that? As a big man he isn't a play initiator so his touches have dropped, the Cavs usually let him get his post touches to get him going to start the game and Love keeps the floor spread, while being a stretch big and elite rebounder.

Bosh had to sacrifice and extend his range to the three point line and focus on P&R defense for the good of the team. That's how it is, KG never averaged 20 a game on Boston after averaging 22.5 a game on Minny before the trade.

I don't think they should trade Love either, they should be looking to trade TT and Shumpert.

Dead on with the 3rd option part. I am not sure what is so hard to understand about that for so many people. I don't know of too many 3rd options that put up 26 and 15.

What are they gonna get for those two? Love has an attractive name and is an offensive star, he's a far more attractive trade piece. Beyond that, you aren't putting him at the 5 so who do you get to start there, unless that is who you are trading for?

 

[CourtesyFlush]

"Cavs is retarded"

 

[L&HH]

I think Love is a great player still, but he just doesn't fit. PG gives them more perimeter defense and another scoring option with good playmaking ability. He's an upgrade over Love.

Love could still be great somewhere else, I think he could quickly bounce back to ~23, 12, and 4 on another team. He should age well.

Bring him here to Philly

Fultz
Redikk(FA SG)
Simmons
Love
Embiid


Best rebounding team in the NBA by a mile, Embiid totally covers up Love's defense, great shooting and floor spacing, great PnR opportunities, great passing, amazing high-low offense between Love and JoJo, we comin through

50 wins next year, 60 wins otw. Matchup nightmare for GSW and the Cavs

You think Love is averaging 23 ppg on a team with BEn Simmons (Baby LeBron), Fultz (baby Kyrie) and Embiid? Maybe in the first year sure but when those players coe into their own he's going to get at most 15 shots a game.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Third options gotta get in where they fit in . The ultimate difference between the two teams is the fact that GSW plays defense. Love having the ball more (against guys that can defend him without help) doesn't do anything for the Cavs defense.

You're shifting the argument, I'm addressing your point in regards to Love's offense and the difference between the Cavs/Warriors respective offensive structures. The point is, Love should have the ball in his hands for longer than a player who averages less than half the minutes and is further down the 'offensive option' pecking order.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Dead on with the 3rd option part. I am not sure what is so hard to understand about that for so many people. I don't know of too many 3rd options that put up 26 and 15.

Except it's not "dead on" at all. Y'all don't seem to understand the difference in sacrificing TOP/production next to two other stars, and simply being a spot-up 3-pt shooter (which Love more or less is). If the Cavs had a proper system in place, Love would've had more opportunities to generate offense in the Finals, and therefore would've made the Cavs offense harder to defend and allow LeBron to balance out his energy on both ends evenly.

 

[KingJay]

You think Love is averaging 23 ppg on a team with BEn Simmons (Baby LeBron), Fultz (baby Kyrie) and Embiid? Maybe in the first year sure but when those players coe into their own he's going to get at most 15 shots a game.

Just because I said another team that doesn't mean I think we're that team necessarily for his ppg

Also Simmons is more baby Magic than LeBron in play style, he's just physically more similar to LeBron

 

[H. Selassie]

@ teams and their fans on some Mr Krabs shyt tryna solve the Warriors

 

[FTBS]

You're shifting the argument, I'm addressing your point in regards to Love's offense and the difference between the Cavs/Warriors respective offensive structures. The point is, Love should have the ball in his hands for longer than a player who averages less than half the minutes and is further down the 'offensive option' pecking order.

No, I responded to what you said. The point is offense really wasn't the problem for them.

Except it's not "dead on" at all. Y'all don't seem to understand the difference in sacrificing TOP/production next to two other stars, and simply being a spot-up 3-pt shooter (which Love more or less is). If the Cavs had a proper system in place, Love would've had more opportunities to generate offense in the Finals, and therefore would've made the Cavs offense harder to defend and allow LeBron to balance out his energy on both ends evenly.

How is K. Love gonna generate offense against GSW? He ain't putting the ball on the floor. He doesn't demand a double in the post against their frontcourt players. So please tell me what he's gonna do singled up against the likes of Draymond or KD that is gonna make the Cavs better on defense.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

No, I responded to what you said. The point is offense really wasn't the problem for them..

Again, you shifted the argument. I was addressing your point about Love's offense, specifically his role on that end, which is why I brought up the difference between GS/CLE respective offenses. You then tried to bring up an irrelevant point about defense, because you had no counter for what I posted.