Do you have a good reason to believe in god?

[Ghost Utmost]

@ making this about me and not the topic.

We've already beat the shyt out of the topic. You created this thread because you have three sentences that you were excited about typing again and again.

So minus well turn to a related subject which is your narrow mindedness.

Our very existence is a miracle. Countless improbable events stacked up in the process and even a couple impossibilities occurred along the way.

Think of it like an action sequence in a movie. The hero is doing all this impossible shyt only because it was written that way.

But there is no evidence and we don't yet know.

 

[Ghost Utmost]

Mankind has to put down his pride,ego, and intellect in order to "see" God. Cleverly ironic if you ask me.

Incredibly well put.

Intellect is our thing. G-d's consciousness is not like ours cause there's no want, no being unsure. You have to go back to what you knew before you knew words. Before you knew you were separate.

 

[Anwulika]

Why do I believe in God? Because He makes the seemingly impossible, possible. I know this from personal experience .

 

[DREAMZZZ]

But you started a thread asking folks a reason for their belief in Him.

Not just a reason, but a good reason. Preferably based in fact with evidence to back it up.

If you are asking people reasons for their faith, it is your job to find out if it's true or not, not the people you are asking.

This is shifting the burden of proof. The burden of proof is on the person making the claim.

If you didn't care or believe that he could possibly exist we wouldn't be having this conversation.

I do care that's why I made this thread.

This is another post focused on me instead of the question.

 

[DREAMZZZ]

The "evidence" provided doesn't please you.

Its not about me. This topic is way bigger than me.

So you conclude he doesn't exist.

I conclude nothing without evidence.

 

[DREAMZZZ]

Mankind has to put down his pride,ego, and intellect

A perfect entity has pride and ego? wouldn't that go against the idea of being perfect?

 

[InfinateOpulance]

Its not about me. This topic is way bigger than me.

I conclude nothing without evidence.

/thread.
There is nothing else to discuss then. Anymore questions?

 

[DREAMZZZ]

Why do I believe in God? Because He makes the seemingly impossible, possible. I know this from personal experience .

Got any examples?

 

[InfinateOpulance]

A perfect entity has pride and ego? wouldn't that go against the idea of being perfect?

What? You missed the point.

You (mankind) needs to put down ego, pride, and intellectual thinking (reasons or reasoning) in order to understand God. As long as you are looking for fleshly or physical evidence that he is alive you will keep asking the same questions over and over again, just like you have done in this thread.

Furthmore, you ask questions with the answers already in your mind. So what's really the point of this thread???

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Learn the difference between subjective and objective morality.

I know the difference. The problem is, atheists do not and cannot live happily and consistently while adhering to a worldview in which objective morality doesn't exist. Objective morality cannot exist without an objective point of reference. There is no objective reference for morality given atheism. It is subjective, therefore, not binding on all people at all times and all places.
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Who is saying this? This is not my argument.

I didn't say it was. The issue is that if 'G-d' does not exist, then human beings can have no 'purpose' since they are the accidental result of time + matter + chance. Accidents can have no 'purpose'.​

I never said this either.

Correct, which is why I underlined always.​

Says who, you?

Says logic. If things begin to exist, that means prior to their existence, they did not exist.​

Your going to have to explain this one to me.

Human beings are the only organisms that are known to have an understanding of time in the past, present, and future.​

So your saying that anything that is not objective doesn't matter?

I'm saying that things that are not objective have no meaningful significance to anyone other than those who deem them significant. My mother's life is significant to me and other family members as well as her friends and acquaintances, but not to anyone else. If she were to cease existing, no one's life other than those of us who consider her significant would be affected.

If the Earth were to cease existing, the rest of the Universe would not be affected.

If the Universe were to cease existing,...................
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They have meaning to me and a lot of other people on this earth.

Ultimately, you and the rest of the people of the Earth are meaningless. The Earth, itself, is meaningless. The Universe is meaningless.​

 

[Anwulika]

Got any examples?

Yeah but I'm not going to share them with you as you'd probably not believe them anyway.

 

[InfinateOpulance]

Yeah but I'm not going to share them with you as you'd probably not believe them anyway.

I have tons of examples too but I'm not sharing them.

 

[Menelik II]

It just boils down to the fact that people are happy to believe things that are either:

a) patently false.
b) where the thing's nature and actions are untestable e.g. 'he exists outside space and time', 'he can't be proven' etc
c) where they have no concept of the mechanics of the how this 'thing' even works.

The real question is why are people happy to suspend their critical faculties and place faith in something.

 

[blotter]

It just boils down to the fact that people are happy to believe things that are either:

a) patently false.
b) where the thing's nature and actions are untestable e.g. 'he exists outside space and time', 'he can't be proven' etc
c) where they have no concept of the mechanics of the how this 'thing' even works.

The real question is why are people happy to suspend their critical faculties and place faith in something.

Possibly because the heart is up to 5,000 times more magnetically charged than the brain, has 60x the electrical charge, and there is emerging research that it's also a memory storehouse. Its natural state between this and that seems to be unconditional love. Words and beliefs might be a useful bridge, but faith is necessary in some ways with other faculties. Faith is not in something in my view, it's the exact opposite and exists for the sake of itself. Belief is much shakier ground, marked by a discriminating mind and referencing back to a false sense of identity for much of its time

 

[Menelik II]

Possibly because the heart is up to 5,000 times more magnetically charged than the brain, has 60x the electrical charge, and there is emerging research that it's also a memory storehouse. Its natural state between this and that seems to be unconditional love. Words and beliefs might be a useful bridge, but faith is necessary in some ways with other faculties. Faith is not in something in my view, it's the exact opposite and exists for the sake of itself. Belief is much shakier ground, marked by a discriminating mind and referencing back to a false sense of identity for much of its time

this is ducktales, the heart doesn't store memories, and even if it did, it doesn't have any relevance to people suspending their critical thinking.
Most of what you said is woo that doesn't actually mean anything.