does prayer work?

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Yes. God is good. All the time. I'm a living testimony of that.

Can I ask you a serious question about this statement? No matter how it comes off I am definitely NOT trying to troll you or be an assh*le just for the sake of being one.

When people say "God is good all the time" what does that mean?

For the sake of this question, let's speak in "semi-absolutes". There are good things that happen and bad things that happen.

How is God good "all the time". It seems like a weird justification for the religion. When a good thing happens we say "thank God, without you I couldn't have done XYZ" but when a bad thing happens (child death, lose our job, end up homeless etc.) we say "it was a part of God's plan". Well if God's plan account for some negative bumps in the road, how is it good "all the time". I mean we have Christians across the world who have terrible things happen to them (The South Carolina shooting in a Church killing 9 innocent people). How is this "good"?

I'm not trying to attack you or Christianity at all. If you take it that way please reconsider. I'm only trying to get your perspective and sometimes it's hard to articulate that over a message board without being disrespectful.
 

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Can I ask you a serious question about this statement? No matter how it comes off I am definitely NOT trying to troll you or be an assh*le just for the sake of being one.

When people say "God is good all the time" what does that mean?

For the sake of this question, let's speak in "semi-absolutes". There are good things that happen and bad things that happen.

How is God good "all the time". It seems like a weird justification for the religion. When a good thing happens we say "thank God, without you I couldn't have done XYZ" but when a bad thing happens (child death, lose our job, end up homeless etc.) we say "it was a part of God's plan". Well if God's plan account for some negative bumps in the road, how is it good "all the time". I mean we have Christians across the world who have terrible things happen to them (The South Carolina shooting in a Church killing 9 innocent people). How is this "good"?

I'm not trying to attack you or Christianity at all. If you take it that way please reconsider. I'm only trying to get your perspective and sometimes it's hard to articulate that over a message board without being disrespectful.

God is good all the time... Man however, not so much... thus Free Will...

A loving God gave Souls complete Free Will... no different than a Loving Parent giving their Teenager Free Will. Is it the Parent's fault what said Teenager does with that Free Will?
 

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Prayer is what slaves were told to do by their masters. There's a reason black people still do it.

I'd love for someone to explain to me the difference between praying, hoping, and wishing for the best outcome. I'll wait.

Praying - communication with God and spirit. Actively speaking to God and asking for His will and power to intervene in your life....effectively releasing the free will you've been given and limited power you have to do things your way...and asking Him to get involved and do it His way. He is a God of wonders.

Hoping - having a feeling or emotion of hope for a desired outcome. Looking toward the future that has not yet manifested. You do not need to speak to hope, you do not need to pray to hope.

Wishing for the best outcome - this is an idea that is thrown in to no particular direction or to God. A wish is just an intense desire or idea with no faith behind it, it's less effective and active than hope or prayer.

Yes, prayer works. I have seen miracles. I pray as much and for as many people as I can. When things are good and when things are bad. Prayer is the most powerful tool we have as human beings.
 

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I. Prayer has been scientifically proven to work.

II: One night when shyt was rough, my mom prayed for us to have something to eat.

I was unaware of this but apparently after I walked in my moms room with food, she had just got done praying.

So is this "God" at work or is this merely a coincidence? Can you prove the former?
 

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"My people perish for a lack of knowledge". Heed my words, brethren. Prayer does work. It has worked for me and family numerous times but understand this, it works only according to thy faith & righteousness.

Therefore if ye were to pray and have any inclination of doubt in thy heart, thy result will disappoint you. God hath told us "If ye had faith the size of a grain of mustard seed, ye could move a mountain". The Bible also tells us this "the prayers of the righteous availeth much" meaning that if ye are an unbeliever or a sinner, thy prayers shall not reach Heaven. God shall not be mocked. And even still the scripture says "availeth MUCH" meaning not all the time but many times.

God doeth not answer every prayer. If ye pray for a million gold colds, God probably won't allow it and the reasons why may be many. It may not be according to His will. Ye may not be responsible enough to handle such coinage. The prophet John told us " if we ask anything according to his will, he hears us." According to His will, not yours.
Many have issue with God because He is sovereign meaning He can do what He wants, when He wants and how He wants. This also means He doesn't have to do the things you wish He would do.

Prayer is a mysterious thing but I stand firm as a witness to its power. Do not be fooled brethren. Behold, my aunt lay dying, lifeless on her death bed and brain dead. Doctors have done all they could do. The church prays for her and God hears. Her vitals began to improve. We pray more and God hears us. She begins breathing without the machine. We pray more and God hears us. She opens her eyes and eventually begins to speak. Hallellujah! Praise God for the things He hast done! She is now back to her normal life after being on the brink of death.
 

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Do you have family or friends who are slaves right now ?:ohhh:

"But... but, but... but... we're still slaves in the Mind." :skip:





















































































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Can I ask you a serious question about this statement? No matter how it comes off I am definitely NOT trying to troll you or be an assh*le just for the sake of being one.

When people say "God is good all the time" what does that mean?

For the sake of this question, let's speak in "semi-absolutes". There are good things that happen and bad things that happen.

How is God good "all the time". It seems like a weird justification for the religion. When a good thing happens we say "thank God, without you I couldn't have done XYZ" but when a bad thing happens (child death, lose our job, end up homeless etc.) we say "it was a part of God's plan". Well if God's plan account for some negative bumps in the road, how is it good "all the time". I mean we have Christians across the world who have terrible things happen to them (The South Carolina shooting in a Church killing 9 innocent people). How is this "good"?

I'm not trying to attack you or Christianity at all. If you take it that way please reconsider. I'm only trying to get your perspective and sometimes it's hard to articulate that over a message board without being disrespectful.

It means that God and His Way is righteous and that God will always take care of those who appeal to Him. If you take one step towards Him, He'll take two towards you.

God is the omnipotent and the omnificent. However, because He loves us, He gives us free will, meaning that He allows each person to make decisions in their lives (for better of for worse) and deal with the consequences of those decisions. However, if we look towards Him, he will guide us and will care for us.

Having God in our lives does not mean that we do not suffer pain, heartbreak, tragedy and death. Save death (though man can cause that also), those are things caused by others in our lives (who may not have accepted God in their lives). However, having God in our lives means that we will overcome and persevere despite the bumps in the road. Having God in our lives means that we have a reason to live each and every day. Having God in our lives means that, no matter how depressed, hurt, or vulnerable we may be, He finds a way for us to receive blessings.

God is good all the time because even when individuals/circumstances in our lives become negative or seem perpetual, He permits us to have the silver lining. He permits us to heal. He permits us to rise and persevere.

Count your blessings and you'll start losing count.
 

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Pray directly to god


Don't pray to the pope , priest , Mary , saints , etc


Just strictly God , and end it in Jesus name
 

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God is good all the time... Man however, not so much... thus Free Will...

A loving God gave Souls complete Free Will... no different than a Loving Parent giving their Teenager Free Will. Is it the Parent's fault what said Teenager does with that Free Will?

I guess I don't get the answer to my question. Here's a different and more clear scenario

"3 year old child gets cancer, incredibly painful, incredibly debilitating, incredibly awful, dies a very painful death."

What does this have to do with free will? Where is the "God is good all the time" in this scenario? We could all agree that this is "bad" and "heartbreaking" I would imagine that only sick people would say "God is good" in this situation, they would say "it was part of God's plan" or they would spin it and say "well the baby got cancer and God is good because he put the baby out of it's misery" but why was the misery caused in the first place?
 

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I guess I don't get the answer to my question. Here's a different and more clear scenario

"3 year old child gets cancer, incredibly painful, incredibly debilitating, incredibly awful, dies a very painful death."

What does this have to do with free will? Where is the "God is good all the time" in this scenario? We could all agree that this is "bad" and "heartbreaking" I would imagine that only sick people would say "God is good" in this situation, they would say "it was part of God's plan" or they would spin it and say "well the baby got cancer and God is good because he put the baby out of it's misery" but why was the misery caused in the first place?

Unless you accept the idea of Reincarnation, no answer is going to satisfy you.
 
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