Yeah I live in the us and when in the hell did I say the child support office deals with custody?Do you live in the US? Honest question, because that is not how it works at all. There are plenty of real life support groups for men out there that have tried to get custody of their children. Even filing for joint custody is a mountain to climb and requires a man to spend thousands of dollars on lawyers to do so. I know plenty of men that are traumatized from dealing with the system in trying to get more than just weekend custody of their children.
I know you don't know what you are talking about because the child support office doesn't even deal with custody. If there is a disagreement between the parents the child support office will apply the standard visitation agreement and the father has to get a lawyer and go to family court. Where he will have to prove why the mother is UNFIT to have primary custody of the child. The mother has to either be unfit, or unwilling to take care of the child for the father to win, the only men that normally win these cases are the ones that are really rich, their are anecdotes out there of really sensible judges but it ain't the norm. I've had had lawyers I've been willing to pay 10-20k for tell me there is no point in them taking my money because its a losing case unless I can prove the mother is on drugs or abusive. Most men just have to stick it out until the child becomes old enough where the court will take their opinion on where they want to stay into consideration and its still not a guarantee the judge will side with the dad.
So why was @Deacon Frye saying something completely different from what you’re saying? Clearly circumstances differ in each case.
Most men aren’t fighting for custody so stop it and it’s not because they think they can’t win. It’s because they don’t want to or they think the children belong with the mother.
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