Future - "Reasonable Doubt was not hot when it dropped"

[Zero]

In NY, it was a big deal

Outside of NY though...

 

[ThiefyPoo]

Who gives a shyt

Desiigners panda and Timmy turner were HOT on the streets and what that get him?



Jay Z money > Futures
Jay Z wife > Russell Wilsons

He wasn't hating breh it was a discussion

 

[NigerianDonDada]

He's right

 

[Piffery]

Why the fukk do Jay haters (not future) keep bringing this up?
Like no one except y'all talk about RD's reception on release.
Why the fukk do you say Jay fans are trying to rewrite history? Like what are you even talking about? Who? How?

 

[International Playa]

Resonable doubt wasnt hot in 96, especially comparing to the albums dropped in 1996

Pac released two albums that year, Big was still riding off the success off first album releasing remixes after remix. Nas dropped It was written that year. Mobb Deep dropped too.

Hard knock life vol 2 was Jayz breakthrough album. Everyone was sleeping on Jayz till then

 

[Gravity]

This is an Internet argument. Dude probably was introduced to RD thru the Internet.

Stop.

RD debuted about around 23 on the billboard charts
It sold only 420,000 copies at that time
And Jay-z considered retiring

Yall Jigga stans STAY tryin to re-write this mans career.

That was a good number back then tho. Gold debut with no major push was a success. It parlayed him to a bigger deal. IIlmatic took years to go platinum as well. The haters are the ones tryna rewrite history.

 

[Piffery]

Like what the fukk is the point.
Ya'll always say something like "The album is nice and is a classic, but it wasn't popping back then " or "It's the truth " Like what the fukk are you trying to say by saying that, what's the ultimate point, what knowledge are you dropping, who the fukk are you contradicting or disproving by saying that, why the exasperated look and tone? What? This discussion always amounts to gibberish in my mind.

 

[razassin]

Future sayin RD a classic and hard he just sayin it wasnt "hot" cuz it wasnt that popular at the time... he not lyin' and he not dissin' jay... like many said before me in this thread... jay has also acknowledged this.

I think he tried to make the same point with nas by mentionin' "if i ruled the world" after illmatic. Illmatic changed the game for mcs and hip hop heads and it gave nas a platform to blow up with his next project.

Aint futures uncle the one who started the dungeon family in atl? Future been soaked in hip hop since most of u was in the first grade

 

[Frida Giezman]

I remember back then one of my boys trying to put me on to jay one day when we was in the wiz

He picked up reasonable doubt and was like this is that nikka

I was like

I remember thinking ain't no nikka was kinda corny...jays parts at least

I didn't really start fukking with him till vol 3

I remember getting vol 1 as a xmas gift and I ain't even take that bytch out the wrapper lol

 

[Piff Perkins]

 

[SunZoo]

Great album but it wasn't popular off the bat, at least not nationally.

Neither was illmatic...

 

[Piffery]

 

[spliz]

a bunch of albums dropped that year that didnt make a 'mark', but that doesnt mean people didnt fukk with those albums...seriously, what is this 'make a mark' stuff?...what's the criteria to determine if something 'made a mark'?..are yall talking about sales? if so, then a lot of 'classic' albums didnt make a mark when they first dropped....

also, him pleading the case for the album was about sales, not whether or not people fukked with it, it was hot, none of that....'first joint was a classic, shouldve went triple'...

Jay pleaded for that album to be a classic. And yes there was a bunch of albums that year that didn't make a "mark". Jay's was one of those albums. It was looked at as a hot album. It was his debut album and it didn't make a mark critically or commercially brot. Illmatic did. Ready To Die did. OBFCL did. The Infamous did. 36 Chambers did. Doggystyle. The Chronic. The list goes on and on. That shyt was on the level of AZ's Doe or Die when it dropped. Dope album but wasn't considered a game changer.

 

[spliz]

Neither was illmatic...

It wasnt commercially but it was critically. Not to mention it got bootlegged heavy. It made in undeniable impact on the rap game. Labeled classic off bat. Reasonable Doubt didnt critically or commercially. I don't understand how this is an argument cause it's not like it's a slight to Jay.

 

[Menelik II]

RD was when it dropped slthough brooklyns finest was good, foxy was the star of ain't no. there was too much competition at the time. He didn't really come on my radar til vol 2