'Supreme Clientele 2' is Ghostface’s timeless statement
Supreme Clientele 2 proves Ghostface is still a master, delivering cinematic tales, gritty beats, and a true New York essence
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Ghostface Killah- Supreme Clientele Part 2
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Ghostface Killah – Supreme Clientele 2 | Reviews | Clash Magazine Music News, Reviews & Interviews
When Mass Appeal promised legends, they weren’t exaggerating. The label’s Legend Has It… series is a summer-long, seven-strong release slate, boasting
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Album Review: Supreme Clientele 2 by Ghostface Killah
Ghostface’s willingness to reach back into his archives, involve peers and proteges, and release the work under a banner dedicated to legends demonstrates an artist unafraid to expand it.
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4/5
You nikkas are killing me complaining about break beats when SC1 is a bunch of break beats.
DOOM could have done that bilndfolded
Ghostface Killah - Supreme Clientele 2 | Review - Hip Hop Golden Age
Ghostface Killah - Supreme Clientele 2 | Review: It will never replace the original in the pantheon, but it doesn’t have to—its value lies in the fact that Ghostface still sounds hungry, still sounds alive, and still sounds like himself.
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8/10
Awesome Wells
The Bobby Womack of Crack
Probably one of the wackest beats on the album.
But we got a lot of people on here scared to say how they really feel about sh*t, depending on who the artist is.
And that's really what's killed a lot of albums for NYC rappers these days. The generic beats. Jadakiss can't get it right either with the beats. People talk about why NY fell off all day, but the answer, is the production. Once the budgets got smaller, n*ggas stopped putting a focus on production and would just get tracks from anybody who had a discount going at the moment. Both Rae and Ghost could've made classics, with better production.
Piff Perkins
Veteran
I mentioned this during the Rae discussion but I just don’t think these older artists gravitate to the shyt we think is dope in this era. That beat for You Ma Friend is god awful but honestly I think Ghost heard that and thought it was similar to All I Got Is You. An emotional track he can open up on. And oh btw it was cheap and the guy who produced it records Ghost for cheap at his studio lol. That’s the calculation being done IMO.
I’ll give Ghost credit for having Conway on the record. But clearly he wasn’t trying to pay for Conductor or Daringer beats, and we’re never gonna get the record we think these artists (Rae, Ghost, Jada, AZ, etc) are still capable of making.
Awesome Wells
The Bobby Womack of Crack
Facts.
Conductor And Daringer would be perfect for both Rae and Ghost. But you have to pay them what they're worth, if they're doing sh*t on your album. And they're not willing to do that. So that's when you start seeing all these bargain basement producers popping up in the credits.
Pete Rock said a lot of his peers ask him for beats today and want him to make them a deal for 2 for 1 beats and drop his price crazy. The issue is that a lot of our legends and even current MC's have devalued the producer to the point where they don’t even think production is worth paying for anymore. Buckwild talks about this a lot too. It's wild.
I feel like Wu cats suffer from this especially, because to this day most of them soured on Rza when he actually started charging them the fair amount for his beats.
They all got into the game lil bro-ing Rza, and it shows in the way they survived without him and talk about him. Ghost managed to do it a bit longer because he had the machine behind him.
Like I love U-God but in his book he kept calling Rza a nerd who happened to make good beats. That's really how most of them see Rza.
504Slim's sister
Rookie
I'm glad this album is getting good reviews. It's really really good.
Awesome Wells
The Bobby Womack of Crack
True. RZA's easily Top 5, of all-time.
But him falling off really affected Rae and Ghost's catalogues. I had "The Faster Blade" on recently, and I was thinking how they could've made so many more classics, if RZA was able to keep the quality high. Losing that RZA involvement made everything hit or miss for mad of the Wu projects. He was always the key.
504Slim's sister
Rookie
8/10, 4/5, 7/10, 8/10...I'm happy it's getting good reviews! It's a really really really good album!
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Piff Perkins
Veteran
The funny thing is there was certainly a period where nobody was really making money so producers were fine handing shyt out. But for well over a decade the underground has been raking in cash. Vinyl, Bandcamp, shows, Europe…there is money to be made. Guys like Conway are paying for shyt off show money and merch sales. Or doing splits on a rapper/producer album. Roc Marci and Spitta really changed the game…
For Ghost/Rae/etc I’d imagine there’s hesitation on paying out cash for beats, something the label used to handle for them back in the day. They’d rather find the cheapest shyt imaginable and keep it moving. Granted I don’t know exactly what a Conductor beat costs but even with the Drake placements I don’t think it’s some crazy number. It’s not like Rome Streetz is super rich or something. But vet rappers always gonna want to keep their cash lol.
Awesome Wells
The Bobby Womack of Crack
All true.
Conductor said after he started making all those Griselda joints, his price went up. And since then, he's been even more in demand. So I'm sure rappers can't expect his beats to come for cheap. You got dudes online selling 10 beats for $100, but that's supposed to be for the amateur rappers who just need tracks to rap over.
We're not supposed to be seeing legends and seasoned MC's trying to find no cheap beats, lol. That's still wild, to me. Kiss and the LOX are doing that now too. Going out and finding no name beatmakers who have cheaper prices. That kinda sh*t really shows in the work. There's no shortcuts to a classic.
