Ghostface Killah- Supreme Clientele Part 2

[Redwood]

MF DOOM esque?

 

[Redwood]

Y’all buggin pretty Toney was MID don’t say this pretty tony 2 cuz this shyt better

Metal lungies & save me dear the only songs I’ll ever rock with off that album

No love for It's Over, Be This Way, and the skits?

 

[Jx2]

Once I viewed this as more of a Lost Tapes, the more I appreciated it. I’m not mad at him calling it SC2 though—one, it gets our attention and builds hype (even if people view it as false advertising), but more importantly, it forced him to take it seriously.

Put the title and SC expectations aside, and this is a really dope album to me. It feels weird hearing the different eras of his voice, but the most important thing to me is that this feels well engineered for a collection of old tracks. It could’ve easily been all over the place in audio quality, but for the most part every single track knocks well in the whip. I feel like despite being a collection of tracks scattered across eras, they did a good job bringing a uniformity in sonic quality.

If Ghost putting pressure on himself by calling this SC2 is what it took to get us this collection of tracks, I’m glad he went that route. Also loved how the album finished strong (IMO) and didn’t taper off. The Trial was dope (GZA still sounds energized!), the Nas track was dope, Soul Thang was a cool posse freestyle cut, Metaphysics gave me Be Easy energy, Candyland was like Kilo Pt. 2, The Zoom was another Holla type track, and Meth sounded good on You My Friend (which sounds like it could be an early 2000s Dr. Dre collab).

I’m sure many will disagree, and I’m not saying it’s on the level of Fishscale, but this is bringing back the feeling I had listening to that when it came out. Listening in the headphones the first time and not getting Supreme Clientele was a disappointment. But a couple spins in the whip with an adjusted perspective after reading a few posts on here completely changed my experience with this album.

And at “the dikk don’t fit, they calling it an acquittal.”

I agree. The more l listen to it, the more I like it. It's definitely the best thing he's dropped since I was in college during Fishscale / More Fish.

The analogy that's been floating around my head the last 48 hours is that the album feels like being a kid on Saturday mornings and flipping the channels between cartoons, Saved by the Bell, etc while seeing ads for TMNT action figures, Creepy Crawlers and Toys R US. It's got a grab bag approach and I actually don't mind it.

The biggest criticism is obviously the attempt make it a proper sequel but let's be honest...brehs on here saying that the other one was better sequenced or flows better are on residual angel dust like Ghost was making that album

That album is an all time classic 1/1 because one of the greatest and most creative lyricists in hip hop was coming down from a massive angel dust high and went on a trip to Africa just to detox

The Ghost that used to hide KFC buckets in the ground made that album. I'm glad the brother is in a better space with his mental health now


Im at a 4/5 with this two days later

 

[Ziggiy]

Break Beat and Beat Box got me like

 

[god shamgod]

No love for It's Over, Be This Way, and the skits?

This was aiight the rest

Pretty Toney mid ,fishscale the last dope ghost project imo

More fish was better than that too

 

[Awesome Wells]

Every interview he’s done he’s been upfront and honest about which songs are older and which songs are newer. He’s been open about the process of recording the album and why he chose to go about it the way he did.

If you don’t like the album thats cool because its your opinion. But you don’t gotta lie to kick it breh

Don't be mad, Tito.

Dude literally said "I spent a lot of time working on this project to make it perfect because I wanted to make sure it was a movie". All these loosies on here were for other projects that he didn't want to put out decades ago. They weren't for SC-anything. He said like 6 joints were old, after the fact. But it's way more than that. He said he went out and got new producers for this because a lot of producers don’t have what he needed for this album and that Mass Appeal was mad at him because he didn't care who produced what, he just wanted the right beats to make "SC2 a movie".

You ain't gotta take my opinion personally because this dropped on Mass Appeal. None of this music has anything to do with you. Ghost is my guy, but he misled people with this weak ass project. This was some lazy sh*t.

 

[Bugzbunny129]

This was aiight the rest

Pretty Toney mid ,fishscale the last dope ghost project imo

More fish was better than that too

Holla biscuits n run blow all them songs out by a lot

 

[L $ C]

This thread really made me smile. I had forgot how wonderful this place can be when an album comes out that people actually care about enough to debate and talk about intelligently. This thread actually brought out a lot of the good posters and hip hop heads. I forgot how smart some of yall are and why I was proud to be a poster here and back on SOHH back in the day, this place is a lot better when its an actual discussion and not just the same 5-10 shyt posters, but I digress....

So many great points made in this thread but prolly the biggest one to me is the executive producer role that a bunch of yall brought up. This album is fine its cool but its not nearly good enough to contain the moniker SC2 and infact you're almost doing the original, which could honestly be said is one of the greatest hip hop albums of all time bar none- a disservice

 

[L $ C]

I mean how many sequals of TRUE CLASSIC hip hop albums have truly been successful? spec that many years later??? none really.

Maybe that deserves another thread but to me the only true sequals to A1 classics that ever been sucesfful is 2001, DOD2 was ok and OB4CL2.

I dont really count stillmatic as a sequal to illmatic imo.
Run the jewels 2 was up there


OB4CL2 is the goat when. you're talking about trying to capture the essence of the first


14 years later this was incredible

 

[Crumple]

Blast this while summer 2025 is still here!

It's totally a summer in the city type album.for me!

I'm grateful he's still recording.

 

[L $ C]

you got it backwards. supreme clientele had a lot of "noname" producers. But you had rza choosing, remixing and putting together these beats, adding stuff and make a cohesive album.
The problem with sc2 is not the lack of big name producers, its the lack of any direction or cohesiveness or effort tbh.
Turns out Shawn Wigs is not as good as an executive producer as RZA, who would've thought.

big time agree

 

[L $ C]

LL is 57 years old and dropped this last year



But I'm supposed excuse this Mass Appeal bullshyt

Stop dikkriding. This album will be out of your rotation completely by Labor Day

this post isnt wrong either, but honestly 2 things- Q tip is still a great producer, and LLs voice sounds like 1992

 

[Corndog]

Brother that's not remotely the same beat are yall seriously complaining that some of these samples have been flipped in the past???

Have you ever listened to hip hop before?

 

[L $ C]

Agreed about calling this SC2 raising the expectations probably too much. Minus a couple obvious homages to SC2, it probably would’ve fared better calling it Apollo Kids 2. I did like that album a good amount, and that was known as more of a b-side type album.

you're not wrong but lol at the idea of apolllo kids getting a sequel

 

[Crumple]

I mean how many sequals of TRUE CLASSIC hip hop albums have truly been successful? spec that many years later??? none really.

Maybe that deserves another thread but to me the only true sequals to A1 classics that ever been sucesfful is 2001, DOD2 was ok and OB4CL2.

I dont really count stillmatic as a sequal to illmatic imo.
Run the jewels 2 was up there


OB4CL2 is the goat when. you're talking about trying to capture the essence of the first


14 years later this was incredible

Jesus, I forgot how dope that track is.

And Ghost's voice wasn't raspy at all on it.