How did Peyton Manning survive so many underwhelming playoff performances? His defenses weren't bad

[KidJSoul]

Seriously

When you break it down and rewatch some of these playoff games... how has Peyton gotten a pass for this shyt?


Skip to the 1:31:00 mark. Peyton got gifted.
Skip to the 1:47 mark. Watch the ending of that drive. people blame Vanderjagt, but Peyton almost threw two back to back interceptions.

Brady best this same Steelers team that year ON THE ROAD with WORSE WEAPONS

Whrn you look at these games... his defenses were NOT BAD...

It was just 2012 and 2010 where they cost him at the end.

His defenses -in the playoffs- gave up virtually the same amount of points on average as Brady's did.

Look at this shyt.

PLEASE SKIP TO 3:22 IN THIS VIDEO


What the fukk was that? It's 3rd and 2, at the goaline, your down 7-0.

That wasn't even good defense at all on the interception, that was just Peyton panicking

And before anyone gets the wrong idea, I'm not trying to act like Peyton was always shyt. Again, I give him a pass for 2012 (I technically don't have to...) because of the Rahim Moore play. And other QBs like Brady and Rodgers aren't always perfect in the playoffs either.

What I hate is the narrative that Peyton was failed by his defenses or front office. It's just not true under scrutiny

 

[JLova]

Peyton had to be damn near perfect in order to win. He had a kicker who unlike Brady’s kicker, wilted in the biggest moment. Chalk up a number of losses to his kicker. Also he only had a top flight D in Denver. Had a good one for a year in Indy and won the SB.

He had some underwhelming by performances but unlike his peers (Russ threw what 3-4 picks one game and still won) his team could not pull him through those performances….except for those 2 super bowl wins.

 

[JLova]

Bringing up Brady is really a waste of time. Brady didn’t have to win games early in his career. Yes, he had to make some clutch plays but the team was not depending on him like the colts did Peyton. I hate when people bring up Brady. There are 2 Brady’s. Game manager lean on the kicker and D eta Brady and then the GOAT era Brady here he had to win games.

 

[KidJSoul]

another moral victory for the pats

Peyton had to be damn near perfect in order to win. He had a kicker who unlike Brady’s kicker, wilted in the biggest moment. Chalk up a number of losses to his kicker. Also he only had a top flight D in Denver. Had a good one for a year in Indy and won the SB.

He had some underwhelming by performances but unlike his peers (Russ threw what 3-4 picks one game and still won) his team could not pull him through those performances….except for those 2 super bowl wins.

What you are saying does not hold up under scrutiny.

Did you not actually watch the videos? Or games?

The whole point is that Peyton DID NOT HAVE TO BE PERFECT.

Bringing up Brady is really a waste of time. Brady didn’t have to win games early in his career. Yes, he had to make some clutch plays but the team was not depending on him like the colts did Peyton. I hate when people bring up Brady. There are 2 Brady’s. Game manager lean on the kicker and D eta Brady and then the GOAT era Brady here he had to win games.

Peyton's defenses actually played almost as good as Bradys in the playoffs. You're still sticking to the narrative too much. When you dissect it, they were not much worse than the Pats

What about the 2003 Panthers Super Bowl?

 

[Stone]

I’d argue he was better in the playoffs than people give him credit for.

 

[Spaceman Piff]

peyton was considered a choke artist for a long time

even now, people are quick to write off his second ring

 

[concise]

You must have been super young the bulk of Manning's career before he won his first ring. He was absolutely mocked and ridiculed constantly on forums and on sports media for "not getting the job done".

 

[phillycavsfan]

I thought those Indy defenses WERE bad...

 

[93 til]

Peyton never really played with bad defenses throughout his career. The Denver D doesn't need an introduction as they single handedly won him his 2nd ring, but in Indy he had Dwight Freeney, Robert Mathis, Cato June, Antoine Bethea and Bob Sanders going to Pro Bowls on D. He had a solid defense in Indy.

 

[KidJSoul]

peyton was considered a choke artist for a long time

even now, people are quick to write off his second ring

You must have been super young the bulk of Manning's career before he won his first ring. He was absolutely mocked and ridiculed constantly on forums and on sports media for "not getting the job done".

I agree

My issue is that in recent years, people have tried to switch the narrative around him as it being that he was the victim of bad defenses

I've seen people say Peyton had a bad supporting cast

Peyton never really played with bad defenses throughout his career. The Denver D doesn't need an introduction as they single handedly won him his 2nd ring, but in Indy he had Dwight Freeney, Robert Mathis, Cato June, Antoine Bethea and Bob Sanders going to Pro Bowls on D. He had a solid defense in Indy.

yup

Their defenses were actually really solid most years - espeically in years like 2005 and 2009

 

[Jplaya2023]

The colts routinely had a bad defense in all those peyton years. The year they won the SB their defense finally nutted up but they let MJD rush for like 250 one game.



In 2007 colts defense let billy voleck drive down the field after peyton gave them theeaf.

In the 09 SB brees was like 30-35 all game.

2010 defense gave it up vs the jets after manning gave them theead.

2005 mike V missed a fg after peyton put them in range following bettis fumble

 

[PHamm]

Mannings whole career is overrated. His dad and Polian had to get the rules changed after the 2003 season and even then he was average at best in the playoffs.

 

[JLova]

What you are saying does not hold up under scrutiny.

Did you not actually watch the videos? Or games?

The whole point is that Peyton DID NOT HAVE TO BE PERFECT.



Peyton's defenses actually played almost as good as Bradys in the playoffs. You're still sticking to the narrative too much. When you dissect it, they were not much worse than the Pats

What about the 2003 Panthers Super Bowl?

I have followed Peyton and Brady closely from College to the NFL.

Peyton did not benefit from a great defense like his contemporaries did. Also didn’t benefit from timely kicking like someone like Brady did….until he got Brady’s kicker and win a SB.

 

[Stop_It_5]

Peyton's playoff failures were one of the signature themes of 00s NFL, he got tons and tons of criticism.

 

[PortCityProphet]

Peyton never really played with bad defenses throughout his career. The Denver D doesn't need an introduction as they single handedly won him his 2nd ring, but in Indy he had Dwight Freeney, Robert Mathis, Cato June, Antoine Bethea and Bob Sanders going to Pro Bowls on D. He had a solid defense in Indy.

It doesn't matter what players were on it, it matters how they also performed in the playoffs.
When a defense turns it up during the playoffs its usually the way to win the ship. Look at the teams who usually win it, the defense hits another level over what they do in the regular season.

I hate the boiling down of football success to a few players.