How did Peyton Manning survive so many underwhelming playoff performances? His defenses weren't bad
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No tf it’s not, the Von Miller bowl was. 2012 was a gift from above 
Peyton sucked in 06 as well. Even when he won he underperformed.
Ineedmoney504
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you just named a bunch of finesse players tho. If Peyton didn’t get the lead in those games all those players was food. The 2 pass rushers you named couldn’t do shyt vs the run. They were only built for having the lead.
bob sanders constantly would injury himself and miss the offs.
Trash ass field goal kicker who would make pro bowl but miss any big kicks.
So for instance, the defense was finesse and you get in a playoff game against the best of the best teams and your defense can’t stop the run and they play keep away from you then you fukked.
in the super bow vs saints it showed just that, literally keep Peyton on the sideline damn near til the 4th quarter. When he was killing in the first half.
dungy kept building soft ass defenses
A lot of you guys are proving OP's point by calling Peyton the GOAT or Top 2 OAT, while completely disregarding his many playoff failures. It'd be one thing if he usually came up short in the playoffs, BUT he played up to his own standards like LeBron.
It's a whole nother thing when he loses, sucks in those losses, and even sucks in about half of his actual wins. THAT'S not a top 3 Quarterback of all-time; that's literally James Harden.
Peyton is essentially the NFL-version of James Harden: amazing in the regular season, and absolutely porous in the playoffs more often than not.
It's a whole nother thing when he loses, sucks in those losses, and even sucks in about half of his actual wins. THAT'S not a top 3 Quarterback of all-time; that's literally James Harden.
Peyton is essentially the NFL-version of James Harden: amazing in the regular season, and absolutely porous in the playoffs more often than not.
He did. That's the whole point of the thread.
He actually did have defenses like that, outside of the 06 regular season.
Kneegrow you said Peyton Manning will be an honorable mention at best
How in the fukk can you say that for a QB that revolutionized the game
Your hate for Peyton stems deep. I know that you’re a Bears fan and the angst I see in your posts everytime Megamind’s name pops up in threads lets me know that you’re still butthurt over that Super Bowl loss. Just say that and let’s keep the shyt moving.
Yea he “revolutionized” the game, so how did that translate into playoff success
Not “butthurt” about anything you corny mf, I just call it how I see it. If there wasn’t any truth to what I was saying, like I said I wouldnt have 20 clowns constantly quoting me or side talking, pressed like broads
And Im not a bears fanatic bozo, that organization and their clown fanatics are trash from top the bottom. I’m just in close proximity with these bums so
no he didn’t
Because this dude is full of shyt and didn't either didn't watch those Colts teams or forgot.
We're gonna act like coaches (Belichick for example) weren't neutralizing players like Freeney because they were a bit one dimensional like you mentioned.
Like Sanders isn't one of the most injury prone players ever.
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Even the 2006 Colts team that won the SB was ass on defense. In the regular season they gave up a league worst 173 yards per game on the ground. It was a miracle that they pulled it together in the post season.
The defense was built with the assumption that Peyton would get them the lead and they could just pin their ears back, rush the passer and sit in cover 2. They were undersized and built on speed. They were not built to shut down teams on their own and were not built to be playing outside the dome really.
I don't know why people are going back and trying to gas up the Colts' defenses.
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Ineedmoney504
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He’s a Boston Stan who ain’t got much else but to live thru old beef cause his team is back to be trash for the next decade or 2Because this dude is full of shyt and didn't either didn't watch those Colts teams or forgot.
We're gonna act like coaches (Belichick for example) weren't neutralizing players like Freeney because they were a bit one dimensional like you mentioned.
Like Sanders isn't one of the most injury prone players ever.
Cato June
Even the 2006 Colts team that won the SB was ass on defense. In the regular season they gave up a league worst 173 yards per game on the ground. It was a miracle that they pulled it together in the post season.
The defense was built with the assumption that Peyton would get them the lead and they could just pin their ears back, rush the passer and sit in over 2. They were undersized and built on speed. They were not built to shut down teams on their own and were not built to be playing outside the dome really.
I don't know why people are going back and trying to gas up the Colts' defenses.
Because this dude is full of shyt and didn't either didn't watch those Colts teams or forgot.
We're gonna act like coaches (Belichick for example) weren't neutralizing players like Freeney because they were a bit one dimensional like you mentioned.
Like Sanders isn't one of the most injury prone players ever.
Cato June
Even the 2006 Colts team that won the SB was ass on defense. In the regular season they gave up a league worst 173 yards per game on the ground. It was a miracle that they pulled it together in the post season.
The defense was built with the assumption that Peyton would get them the lead and they could just pin their ears back, rush the passer and sit in cover 2. They were undersized and built on speed. They were not built to shut down teams on their own and were not built to be playing outside the dome really.
I don't know why people are going back and trying to gas up the Colts' defenses.
Because I watched them play, and most of Peyton's playoff losses, his defense did not cost him
I already acknowledged that his defense DID let him down in
2012 Ravens and 2010 Jets
Yeah, you're gonna push a first ballot hall of famer, 5 time MVP, 2 time SB winner "further into irrelevancy."
Name the losses where the Colts D and special teams played well.
Steelers 2005, the Colts D started rough but clamped Pittsburgh for much of the second half and forced a fumble from Jerome Bettis.
Basically, just read the op, I talked about it there
And in those 03 and 04 pats games, the Colts defense was not bad. Again, read the op. Peyton was throwing wild picks that had nothing to do with his receivers being beat up.
I'm not saying peytons defenses were fantastic - I'm saying that I hate the revisionist history that he wasn't choker and thst his defenses cost him.
As others have said, that applies more to Brees and even Rodgers
You are the one doing revisionist history. The Colts have always been known for having poor/mid defenses during that time. You are the one trying to rewrite it. BTW Manning also caught flack for choking after the Jets playoff loss, which you just said wasn't his fault, so the whole thing about Manning not being criticized is more revisionist history.
They were bad in the 04 Pats game. Indy gave up 150 on the ground and New England was able to hold the ball for nearly 40 minutes. You want to argue that Peyton or the offense were bad too? Whatever, but don't sit here and tell me the D played well in that game.
And you mention the Steelers game, which is fine, the D didn't play poorly there, but that game came down to special teams missing a FG with 21 seconds left. That's why I said D and special teams. So your best example is a game where I don't think Peyton even turned the ball over and both the offense AND D were let down by bad special teams play?
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