How did Peyton Manning survive so many underwhelming playoff performances? His defenses weren't bad

[murksiderock]

OP,

He didn't get a pass. He was the league's Golden Boy for that era, so his visibility looked like it cancelled out the criticism. He'd flame out in the first round and get destroyed for it in the national press. Then throughout the playoffs, his commercials would air. hehehehe

peyton was criticized heavily for his playoff losses

I always think its funny when people trying to push a narrative as if most of us didnt live through that shyt when it was in real time, this was only in the past 15-20 years lol

He never got a pass, he's been shyt on a ton for it

Peyton didn’t get a pass for losing he got clowned for it all the time growing up. That comeback against the Pats changed things

This thread doesn't make sense. Peyton's entire career he's been called a regular season QB. No one ever blames his defenses. It's his defenses that won him Super Bowls. He played poorly in both.

This 100%.

Peyton was called a choke artist back in college at U of Tennessee.

Steve Spurrier used to roast Peyton back then:

"I know why Peyton came back for his senior year. He wanted to be a three-time star of the Citrus Bowl."

Peyton was criticized a lot for his losses. People hated that he got such positive press and praise for his play but didn't have the playoff resume. Even after he won a chip, had the neck injury and returned, breaking records, people dismissed him as a playoff choker and a regular season player. Him getting that last, final ring was the last thing he needed to teflon his career.

It wasn't like Rodgers either, Rodgers has been in a drought but most people have understood and can see with their own eyes that it's not his fault he hasn't won more.

He didn't get a pass at the time. People seem to forget that the Peyon we know now - the charismatic, goofy, witty, affable guy - is essentially a modern-ish creation. The Colts Peyton was a guy who many people AT THE TIME argued was a great regular season QB who got clowned in the playoffs by Brady or someone else. That was the narrative. Kinda similar to how Lamar Jackson gets clowned, the way people say "ok well do it in the playoffs" etc.

I knew the transformation was complete when I saw this shyt


Corny but kinda likable. But that was the perception. Ol' Peyton, beloved by his teammates, slanging the ball. By that point people didn't even care that he had thrown for 55 TDs in a season only to get utterly embarrassed in the SB by Seattle. My uncle always says some players just reach a point where people associate them with football, and once that happens they become myth. No one cares about the MULTPIPLE choke jobs anymore. Same with Favre.

All this, Manning was bludgeoned in the press for his playoff performances in his career...

Anyone who says this is on literal crack. Explain to me how is he better than Manning. He doesn't have the stats nor the rings to back up your claim that he is better. So explain that fukking shyt to me.

Rodgers is certainly not better than Manning. I'm not surprised nikkas forced Rodgers into this conversation, dude is definitely overrated...

 

[Dallas' 4 Eva]

I've seen people say Peyton had a bad supporting cast

Funny thing is in Brady's absolute prime young years he only had one season with a true legit threat on his offense(Moss in '07) and he set every QB record there was at the time.

Peyton had Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Edjerrin James, and Dallas Clark for large portions of his and their careers. His O-lines in Indy were always above average too. Peyton arguably had better teams around him.

 

[Big Boss]

Funny thing is in Brady's absolute prime young years he only had one season with a true legit threat on his offense(Moss in '07) and he set every QB record there was at the time.

Peyton had Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Edjerrin James, and Dallas Clark for large portions of his and their careers. His O-lines in Indy were always above average too. Peyton arguably had better teams around him.

Facts

 

[Luck]

No I'm pressed because Aaron is not better than Manning at all and blows my mind blown on how anyone could think that.

They not even that close in stats. Aaron gotta play at least 4 more seasons of high level football to match and even if he does it would have taken him longer to do it. I’d take rodgers over manning any day if I’m drafting. Manning needs at least an avg or better line

Yall niggss are mad delusional.

both are overrated and have more stat accolades than actual actual sb trophies. And both had teams capable of winning.

bruh don’t bring that basketball shyt here. You don’t win a SB by yourself. It is an entire team effort. Minute someone talks that individual shot thry lose me in the conversation.

I watched mannings whole career. He was overrated, period. The stats just tell the story, can’t be top anything with those playoff performances.

You dumbass nikkas don’t even know what you’re watching when you watch the game. Cats taking about he didn’t have a defense, no…dungy’s defenses were based on speed and quickness so power running teams or any physical team would give them fits, they were the definition of a bend not break defense but that was by design.

Manning had a top rated online and defenses ( minimum above average ) majority of his career with top offensive skill players and still couldn’t get it done. Same clown who threw 6 ints in a game and his team still won vs a great chargers squad.

Get the fukk out of here with this regular season shyt playing titans, jags and Texans for a decade straight…had a guaranteed playoff birth every season, when it counted he folded more often than not.

 

[Lootpack]

Bruh they have him in the mountrushmoure of qbs he's considered top 3 at worst qb

He’s heated

No matter what the Coli Armchair Execs say, Peyton is considered an all-time top 3-5 QB by majority of the media. The Rodgers > Manning claim is ridiculous.

 

[Lootpack]

Off top Broncos vs Ravens the year before the Superbowl loss to seahawks

The John Fox Experience

2012 Broncos not making it to the Super Bowl is a travesty.

 

[Luck]

He’s heated

No matter what the Coli Armchair Execs say, Peyton is considered an all-time top 3-5 QB by majority of the media. The Rodgers > Manning claim is ridiculous.

Projection…

Please explain how I’m mad when I got 40 goofies quoting me and another dozen of you hoe ass nikkas talking about what I’m saying without addressing me directly

You over grown fanatics are worse than beehive fags and bytches

 

[Lootpack]

Projection…

Please explain how I’m mad when I got 40 goofies quoting me and another dozen of you hoe ass nikkas talking about what I’m saying without addressing me directly

You over grown fanatics are worse than beehive fags and bytches

Kneegrow you said Peyton Manning will be an honorable mention at best

How in the fukk can you say that for a QB that revolutionized the game

Your hate for Peyton stems deep. I know that you’re a Bears fan and the angst I see in your posts everytime Megamind’s name pops up in threads lets me know that you’re still butthurt over that Super Bowl loss. Just say that and let’s keep the shyt moving.

 

[Thatrogueassdiaz]

both are overrated and have more stat accolades than actual actual sb trophies. And both had teams capable of winning.



I watched mannings whole career. He was overrated, period. The stats just tell the story, can’t be top anything with those playoff performances.

You dumbass nikkas don’t even know what you’re watching when you watch the game. Cats taking about he didn’t have a defense, no…dungy’s defenses were based on speed and quickness so power running teams or any physical team would give them fits, they were the definition of a bend not break defense but that was by design.

Manning had a top rated online and defenses ( minimum above average ) majority of his career with top offensive skill players and still couldn’t get it done. Same clown who threw 6 ints in a game and his team still won vs a great chargers squad.

Get the fukk out of here with this regular season shyt playing titans, jags and Texans for a decade straight…had a guaranteed playoff birth every season, when it counted he folded more often than not.

He got to the superbowl in 09 with garcon, collie and I forget who else. His first superbowl and the one he lost against seahawks are the 2 championship teams he played for that had elite skill players on offense. Manning was great, especially in his prime. His problem is he struggled against elite secondaries on the biggest stage, whereas his counter part brady struggled against elite defensive lines. He went to 4 superbowls and won 2. That's still great. How many quarterbacks can you say went to 4 superbowls, nevermind winning 2? Everyone else besides Brady and Elway that are considered top 5 only went to 1. And only 2 of them (Brees and rodgers) won that lone superbowl run.

 

[Sadbrownsfan]

Indy had some solid defenses but they were heavily built to stop the pass after the offense got up.

Peyton fukking around early and being off in playoff games took something off the defense.

 

[Frump]

both are overrated and have more stat accolades than actual actual sb trophies. And both had teams capable of winning.



I watched mannings whole career. He was overrated, period. The stats just tell the story, can’t be top anything with those playoff performances.

You dumbass nikkas don’t even know what you’re watching when you watch the game. Cats taking about he didn’t have a defense, no…dungy’s defenses were based on speed and quickness so power running teams or any physical team would give them fits, they were the definition of a bend not break defense but that was by design.

Manning had a top rated online and defenses ( minimum above average ) majority of his career with top offensive skill players and still couldn’t get it done. Same clown who threw 6 ints in a game and his team still won vs a great chargers squad.

Get the fukk out of here with this regular season shyt playing titans, jags and Texans for a decade straight…had a guaranteed playoff birth every season, when it counted he folded more often than not.

so by your logic Eli and Big Ben are better then both of them because it’s only about rings nothing else

 

[Frump]

Funny thing is in Brady's absolute prime young years he only had one season with a true legit threat on his offense(Moss in '07) and he set every QB record there was at the time.

Peyton had Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Edjerrin James, and Dallas Clark for large portions of his and their careers. His O-lines in Indy were always above average too. Peyton arguably had better teams around him.

Brady was also a game manager his first super bowl or two and was able to rely on a great defense so he didn’t have to put up a ton of points the first few years.

Yeah Peyton had weapons but the offense had to score a lot every week. He didn’t have a defense to where if you scored in the low 20’s you’d still have a good chance to win

 

[Dallas' 4 Eva]

Brady was also a game manager his first super bowl or two and was able to rely on a great defense so he didn’t have to put up a ton of points the first few years.

Yeah Peyton had weapons but the offense had to score a lot every week. He didn’t have a defense to where if you scored in the low 20’s you’d still have a good chance to win

Brady was a 'game manager' for the first Super Bowl. The Panthers and Eagles Super Bowls he played well. Funny he was a game manager for the first super bowl and still won MVP for the game.

That was all on Peyton though. Mannimg had control over who he wanted them to acquire and sign and draft. That team was built around him to his liking how he wanted it. I'm sorry Manning gets no passes from me he the definition of an underachiever.

I know Tony Romo would of gave up his first born son to be able to have the situation Peyton Manning had in Indy all those years his whole career.

 

[premier58]

Ok, quick question: how old are you?

37. I watched the game, LIVE!! So i dont know what youre trying to.infer.

 

[Frump]

Brady was a 'game manager' for the first Super Bowl. The Panthers and Eagles Super Bowls he played well. Funny he was a game manager for the first super bowl and still won MVP for the game.

That was all on Peyton though. Mannimg had control over who he wanted them to acquire and sign and draft. That team was built around him to his liking how he wanted it. I'm sorry Manning gets no passes from me he the definition of an underachiever.

I know Tony Romo would of gave up his first born son to be able to have the situation Peyton Manning had in Indy all those years his whole career.

Manning wasn’t picking the players especially on defense lol

Did Manning have a deer in the headlight look in too many playoff games ? Sure.

But he still is one of the all time greats. Like I said maybe the best regular season QB ever.