How the iPhone is so popular is beyond me...

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I'm stuck in the Apple ecosystem so I'm not switching anytime soon or I get a phone off he humble.:lolbron: Still rocking my 5S and holding out til 8 drops if overhaul tumors hold true. :manny::sas2:
 

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I'm stuck in the Apple ecosystem so I'm not switching anytime soon or I get a phone off he humble.:lolbron:
I'm stuck in the Apple ecosystem so I'm not switching anytime soon or I get a phone off he humble.:lolbron: Still rocking my 5S and holding out til 8 drops if overhaul tumors hold true. :manny::sas2:

It really is about the eco system. I used to dismiss that when I just had iPhone and iPad. But when I switched to MBP last year, I truly understood the cipher finally being complete.
 

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Half the people who have iPhones don't even know what the advantages are, Android users typically go on about their business.

I think most can agree that riding hard for a damn cell phone to point of insults is lame no matter what you rock though :mjlol:

Both have great advantages that the other will likely never have and both have a sheet of shyt they could improve upon. Either way people like what they like and will always be that way.
 

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Apple is just proof that brainwashing works....newest Galaxy models are literally superior to iphone in every conceivable way. People love that brand name tho :yeshrug:
 

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Apple is just proof that brainwashing works....newest Galaxy models are literally superior to iphone in every conceivable way. People love that brand name tho :yeshrug:

In what way? Specs? Sure, those phones have always had better specs but actual performance? Different story. Apple can have lesser specs but the OS would run faster and have a better user experience.

It's great to have all the ram in the world, 30 megapixel camera and 1000 TB storage but if that doesn't translate to when I use the phone, what's the point? If the OS is crap, what's the point?

As I said, The Samsung flagship phones are entertainment devices... The iphone is a phone.

And I'll even agree that Apple slacking in a lot of areas but its simplistic use works for a lot of people. Android phones have a lot of features that the average person just doesn't care about cuz they won't use them.
 

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In what way? Specs? Sure, those phones have always had better specs but actual performance? Different story. Apple can have lesser specs but the OS would run faster and have a better user experience.

It's great to have all the ram in the world, 30 megapixel camera and 1000 TB storage but if that doesn't translate to when I use the phone, what's the point? If the OS is crap, what's the point?

As I said, The Samsung flagship phones are entertainment devices... The iphone is a phone.

And I'll even agree that Apple slacking in a lot of areas but its simplistic use works for a lot of people. Android phones have a lot of features that the average person just doesn't care about cuz they won't use them.

Specs are actual numbers tho....you saying the OS is crap is an opinion. I think android OS is far superior because its not bogged down by "apple only" shyt.
 

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I own both the iPhone 6s and the Galaxy S7 and 80% of the time I'm using the iPhone 6s so your hasn't experienced Android reason doesn't fly. The iPhone is a better end user product. The Galaxy is a better tech device. I mainly use my phone for some calls more texting and web. I don't use or care about features like Google Now or Siri. In fact the only thing I use Siri for it to turn off my Hue lights.
Google Now is dope breh.

Google maps on Android is damn near the best GPS mapping software on the market.

Android OS has definitely surpassed iOS at this point.
 

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Specs are actual numbers tho....you saying the OS is crap is an opinion. I think android OS is far superior because its not bogged down by "apple only" shyt.

OS isn't crap but it is for a thechnically advanced person. I've had android phones and am a technically advanced person. I just want my phone to do the basics. If I want all that extra shyt, that's what a computer's for.

Nothing wrong with it, but explaining why people like iphones better.

So that didn't come out right..the OS isn't crap...I like a lot of things about android. The problem is the hardware. Android is made to go on every damn phone....so you're not going to get the same experience on each phone. ios is made for one phone. My experiences with android (and I've had flagship android phones) is it's great at first but is very glitchy and eventually slows down. Never been a problem with me using ios.
 

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OS isn't crap but it is for a thechnically advanced person. I've had android phones and am a technically advanced person. I just want my phone to do the basics. If I want all that extra shyt, that's what a computer's for.

Nothing wrong with it, but explaining why people like iphones better.

So that didn't come out right..the OS isn't crap...I like a lot of things about android. The problem is the hardware. Android is made to go on every damn phone....so you're not going to get the same experience on each phone. ios is made for one phone. My experiences with android (and I've had flagship android phones) is it's great at first but is very glitchy and eventually slows down. Never been a problem with me using ios.


Most uniformed people don't realize that the only reason Apple's iOS seems superior & performs smoother/faster over time with less issues is because unlike Apple, major Android based smart phone manufacturers allow the carriers to add a large amount of additional, unremovable bloatware crap to handsets which limits some of the phones additional storage capabilities, ultimately eats up the ram & eventually slows down the phone.

This is why those who root Android handsets to remove all the carrier junk (along with additional apps which won't be utilized from the manufacturer) don't have long term issues with their phones being "glitchy" or handicapped performance wise.

That being said, large companies with a substantial foothold in the smartphone market like Samsung should stop this practice (as Apple has from the start), which would greatly improve the overall performance of their handsets.
 
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Most uniformed people don't realize that the only reason Apple's iOS seems superior & performs smoother/faster over time with less issues is because unlike Apple, major Android based smart phone manufacturers allow the carriers to add a large amount of additional, unremovable bloatware crap to handsets which limits some of the phones additional storage capabilities, ultimately eats up the ram & eventually slows down the phone.

This is why those who root Android handsets to remove all the carrier junk (along with additional apps which won't be utilized from the manufacturer) don't have long term issues with their phones being "glitchy" or handicapped performance wise.

That being said, large companies with a substantial foothold in the smartphone market like Samsung should stop this practice (as Apple has from the start), which would greatly improve the overall performance of their handsets.

Yes, the bloatware is ridiculous. A regular consumer isn't going to root heir phone.
 

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A regular consumer isn't going to root heir phone.

Which is why I stated that giants like Samsung who have power over phone carriers demands based on being the top dog in the smart phone arena should stop the carriers from adding any of their specific bloatware to handsets.
 

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Music production apps are a main reason i went back to iphone(from galaxy s5)
Emulators utorrent and the file system is dope for andriod, messaging (gifs) are better on iphone.
 

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Most uniformed people don't realize that the only reason Apple's iOS seems superior & performs smoother/faster over time with less issues is because unlike Apple, major Android based smart phone manufacturers allow the carriers to add a large amount of additional, unremovable bloatware crap to handsets which limits some of the phones additional storage capabilities, ultimately eats up the ram & eventually slows down the phone.

This is why those who root Android handsets to remove all the carrier junk (along with additional apps which won't be utilized from the manufacturer) don't have long term issues with their phones being "glitchy" or handicapped performance wise.

That being said, large companies with a substantial foothold in the smartphone market like Samsung should stop this practice (as Apple has from the start), which would greatly improve the overall performance of their handsets.

The bolded is only partially correct. The reason iOS seems faster/better to users is because the actual operating system was designed hand in hand with the hardware. They also designed the software with user experience (human machine interface) as their key paradigm rather than open source features. That's why an iPhone with specs from Android flagships in 2011 can keep up with the latest and greatest Android phones in usability (once again, speediness and fluidity of the interface, not extra features). Apple just went to 2GB ram last September. Even without the bloatware (e.g. Nexus devices) iPhones can keep up. From an end user perspective Android is dope for all it gives you, but from a software development perspective it's can sometimes be a clusterfukk as a platform. JVMs are huge resource hogs and require the extra RAM/CPU power to be speedy.

As for rooting, it usually gives you a whole bunch of dope features, but is prone to open a whole different set of problems. Yes, you get timely updates, but if you aren't on Cyanogen or one of the more popular and organized groups of modders with stable ROMs, you can quickly run into a bunch of glitchy ass ROMs that are continuously being developed. Most of the time anything more than a stock rooted ROM that allows you to remove bloat is signing up for a whole set of hands on management of your device.

As for your last part, I agree but it doesn't start with Samsung. Until very recently (around the time the S6 dropped), they were still a terrible offender. Google should be the one to eliminate carrier bloatware and needless manufacturer customization. They can do it too since they regulate who can use Google Play Services. ALL carrier bloat should be fully uninstallable through the play store and reduced to useful things like carrier specific account apps (like MyATT). Some manufacturers stuff is great, but do we really need manufacturer stuff that replicates core features, custom (as in completely rearranged) settings and all kinds of random shyt that has to be regression tested between each Google update? (which adds months of carrier + manufacturer testing before most phones get updates).

If they forced everyone to use the Gooogle base and go to an app based system of customization (not modifying the Google base), I think they would improve the platform a whole lot overnight. If carriers want to sell completely redesigned Android phones they should do some alternative licensing. Of course it doesn't work like that because user experience isn't Googles money maker though.
 
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