Knicksman20
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Just edited my post bro
if biggie was still around, jay z would be nothin' more than lil cease status
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Nah fam I lived through the era did you? And I know Puff made Big rap over the Juicy beat & big hated it but did it anyway. D-Rock confirms the story in a interview he did. Pac might've given him some tidbits but he was indirectly trying to take credit for Big's success which is just plain
fukk is you talm bout im probally the oldest member on this board FAM...i'll be Culture Wisdom this year..that's 42 to your unenlightened self
not only I lived thru that era..I LIVED IN THAT AREA .....BEDSTUY.....when I attended Medgar Evers college in BK from 92 to 94.....
where Hancock meets Nostrand ave to be exact!!!........
and all you do know is what the SCRIPT of that NOTORIOUS movie told you
I use to flip mixtapes in the albee square mall in bk with a cousin whom knew 50 grand the deejay who first ran with BIG
The mixtapes we flipped eventually help build the foundation of the bizness known as DO OR DIE mixtape which eventually got sold to some Russian kid who turned it into TAPEKINGZ..which resulted in TAPEKINGZ.COM
BIG ran with PAC hard and ran with a lot of concepts as far as song structure that PAC gave him
PUFF had the marketing genius and dollars and connections courtesy of his boss CLIVE DAVIS to make it happen on the radio
Knicksman20
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fukk is you talm bout im probally the oldest member on this board FAM...i'll be Culture Wisdom this year..that's 42 to your unenlightened self
not only I lived thru that era..I LIVED IN THAT AREA .....BEDSTUY.....when I attended Medgar Evers college in BK from 92 to 94.....
where Hancock meets Nostrand ave to be exact!!!........
and all you do know is what the SCRIPT of that NOTORIOUS movie told you
I use to flip mixtapes in the albee square mall in bk with a cousin whom knew 50 grand the deejay who first ran with BIG
The mixtapes we flipped eventually help build the foundation of the bizness known as DO OR DIE mixtape which eventually got sold to some Russian kid who turned it into TAPEKINGZ..which resulted in TAPEKINGZ.COM
BIG ran with PAC hard and ran with a lot of concepts as far as song structure that PAC gave him
PUFF had the marketing genius and dollars and connections courtesy of his boss CLIVE DAVIS to make it happen on the radio
Stop being condescending nikka because I asked you a question without sarcasm. And you're not much older than me & I'm from Flatbush & CI. You keep bringing up that Notorious nonsense which I have no clue why the hell you keep doing that. Big was gutter & Puff helped refine his style. You can literally see that transformation on the tracks on the album to the end product LAD. That's a fact. Big's concept of RTD sounds nothing like Pac & anything else is just laughable & you're running with that narrative with Pac trying to take credit for Big's success out the gate. He had a lot of shyt going on in his life during that period which came from an authentic place & you can hear it. Pac telling Big about rapping for the ladies is just putting him up on game, not anything more or less.
wrong again DUMBAZZ....ready to die had quarterly statements coming in from global sales that validated he BEEN HAD DOUGH COMING IN
Mark Curry and plenty of others spoke on that which is why BIG was so eager to do shows no matter what the venue was.....
Undeas his consultant/friend spoke about how thirsty he was for bread cause the wait on the royalty payments was killing him
this mofo was doing shows at ratchet gutta spots like Cool Runnings in Jville when I was down their in florida for spring break 95......
Which validates his own instinct to sell copies of his own shyt in the street, cause Bad Boy was charging him for the work their street team put in for promotional work along with arista's shipping costs......all these expenses was eating his revenue...
AND YOU GONNA SIT THIER AND SAY BIG KNEW IT WOULDN'T AFFECT HIS BOTTOM LINE?!?!?
BIG needed liquid cash dummy, he just didn't want anyone else in on that bootlegging hustle of his shyt....which is why he got at DJ CLUE.
I remember NY back when all the legends was still alive, nas and big was already up. Jay came out and he was very much just an "oh yeah and this nikka" in people's minds. That's why he was trying mad hard to attach himself to Nas and Big, Nas kinda peeped it which is why he ain't fukk with him like that, leading to the bad blood between them. But Big always liked helping people and spreading love, I think mainly because he KNEW he was the nicest, so of course he ain't mind throwing Jigga a few bones. When Big got killed Jigga appropriated a lot of Big's essence, even claiming that he wouldn't write his rhymes anymore and shyt like that which big was known for.
Knicksman20
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I've tried to be civil with your corny ass but fukk you & your condescending ass. Yes Big was hurting for dough at some points & was trying to do shows but it doesn't change this:
Choke on Al Haymon's dikk
BO BARON
IT AIN'T $HIT!!!!
Where would big be without puff puff made big use a more r&b sample heavy radio friendly commercial approach
Jay always had finesse & a wise beyond his years mentality he wouldve definitely found success plus i think him & big would've eventually collaborated on a album & many songs
you swerved answering dudes point.....
simple fact of the matter is whether you think Biggie was better than Jay doesnt mean he still wouldnt have sold what he did... why Jay and not Ja rule or 50 or Nellie? or whoever
because Biggie was better than all of them .... what you are saying isnt logical
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jay is a good business man and on top of that has always been able to keep a hit. but when biggie passed, jay didn't have no real competition to try and keep up with
jay is a diet coke version of biggie, no matter how you look at it
Knicksman20
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You guys have to read through this & then ask yourself where he would be (or any other rapper career's would be) had he lived:
http://www.thecoli.com/threads/life...hat-biggie-had-planned-for-the-future.199987/
http://www.thecoli.com/threads/life...hat-biggie-had-planned-for-the-future.199987/
Same lane
?who cares?You do realize them nikkas rap completley different right? You know how many nikkas i know who will never listen to Jay because he simply dont "sound hard"? nikkas aint listening to Jay because he rap about coke too,they liked the way he rapped period....more poetic,faaaaar better wordplay,more clever,more cocky,way more introspective,stop me when Im wrong
By your logic 90% of ny rappers wouldnt hve existed if Biggie didnt die which we know is a damn lie
...nikkas rapped in the same lane just fine,befor3 and after Biggie....funny thing is nikkas will cosign this bullshyt...but wont admit DMX wouldnt hve existed if Pac didnt die
Jay is a much different rpper from Biggie,and people like that
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Same lane
By your logic 90% of ny rappers wouldnt hve existed if Biggie didnt die which we know is a damn lie
Jay is a much different rpper from Biggie,and people like that
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Yeah, dude keeps trying to say Jay and Big were pretty much the same, and I just shake my head, as they don't really remind me of each other that much. They are both from Brooklyn, and rapped about selling drugs (on different levels), and that's where the similarities end to me.
BIG = Raw storytelling street cat, with exceptional charisma
Hov = Witty introspective hustler, with unapolagetic arrogance
Exqctly,now if you wanna assume the east coast media wouldn't had tunnel vision and only been able to focus on Biggie and Badboy that's one thing....but the whole they was too similar shyt makes no sense to me....cats actin like Jay is Drake and was the chosen star by default....Jay wasn't even thought of as taking the lead,yet he leapfrogged a few nikkas you would've thought would take the lead upon Biggies death
...not only that but he remained towards the top of the totem pole in one of the most superstar heavy eras ever
....multiple eras actually,and nikkas still wanna call it a fluke
Delusion and jealousy at its finest....its a narrative that went on way past it making any sense