It’s time to have an honest conversation about the Jamaican sprinters.

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Is kinda weird, can't lie.

But Bolt clean.

What's weird? Bolt and Powell are retired and blake is mid thirties

Athletes get old you reload and move on

Just like Netherlands are at speed skating Jamaicans are at track.


If you beat an American you're cheating or the judges are showing favoritism or the American athlete was sick or bla blah
 

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Shelly Ann won her first gold in 08, explain her running her fastest times ever in the 100 & 200 in her mid 30’s in 2021


She has an incredible start and acceleration for starters. That has always served her well. As she got older she addressed her major flaw, Max velocity mechanics. That’s why she started to run faster times.

Before she never had such an upright posture and dominant frontside mechanics. In regards to her age, I she just stayed active. She doesn’t run herself into the ground so there’s no reason she had to be washed up. Sprinting is about efficiency and she just improved hers.
 

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Many?

Blake failed one drugs test. Asafa failed one when he switched trainers. Shelly failed one for a toothache. Who else?

Justin Gatlin had to sit for 8 years because of his history of performance enhancement. And that's the fastest American ever..

Americans don't want to hear about Gatlin, Marion jones, even their famed Carl Lewis .
 
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Americans don't want to hear about Gatlin, Marion jones, even their famed Carl Lewis .

Every American in this thread has acknowledged their usage and we all seem to agree that everyone is on it. For some reason’s Jamaicans are the only one thinkin their team was clean.
 

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No sprinter in the history of track recorded their fastest time ever at age 34 💉

Kim Collins ran his best 100m at 40.

Jeter ran her best 200 at 32.

Fact is, alot of runners are doing well into their 30s. Some runners retire early and don't even live to see 40. We all know who is more suspect.

VCB, Shelly, Elaine and Sherika are all legends and you don't have any evidence to sully their resume. BALCO labs isn't in Jamaica.
 

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And if y'all ain't doping, y'all doping adjacent. Chill on the Jamaican sprint queens.
 

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The other night I went down a rabbit hole of watching old women races cause I wanted to see how good Sanya Richards Ross was
Watched a couple of Marion Jones races and it was almost comical how dramatic she was beating people. shyt looked like she hit a nitro button when she took the lead

Also random , I had no idea she was an Olympic runner or who she was period but Amantla Montsho used to follow me back in the day. I saw her in some of the old races like :ohhh:
 

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I wasn’t under the impression that Jamaica nor its competition was “clean”, so I don’t really care if they had some pharmaceutical help.

Americans don't want to hear about Gatlin, Marion jones, even their famed Carl Lewis .

Some of the other Americans in the 30 for 30 episode 9.79* implied that Carl was dirty for awhile and that he wouldn’t enter races if he was going to get tested. Carl brought in the big money, so they had to appease him.

Lewis tested positive for banned stimulants before the 88’ Olympics, but the USOC said it was an “inadvertent positive” and let him compete anyway. They covered for a bunch of positive tests in both 88’ and 84’ (which was nicknamed The Growth Hormone games). Nearly everyone in that 100m final in Seoul ended up getting caught using PEDs at some point in their careers.
 

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I wasn’t under the impression that Jamaica nor its competition was “clean”, so I don’t really care if they had some pharmaceutical help.



Some of the other Americans in the 30 for 30 episode 9.79* implied that Carl was dirty for awhile and that he wouldn’t enter races if he was going to get tested. Carl brought in the big money, so they had to appease him.

Lewis tested positive for banned stimulants before the 88’ Olympics, but the USOC said it was an “inadvertent positive” and let him compete anyway. They covered for a bunch of positive tests in both 88’ and 84’ (which was nicknamed The Growth Hormone games). Nearly everyone in that 100m final in Seoul ended up getting caught using PEDs at some point in their careers.

everyone except calvin smith and Robson da Silva
 

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What's weird? Bolt and Powell are retired and blake is mid thirties

Athletes get old you reload and move on

Just like Netherlands are at speed skating Jamaicans are at track.


If you beat an American you're cheating or the judges are showing favoritism or the American athlete was sick or bla blah


It's not that he beat an American. It's that his own teamates & people he trained with were cheating, the people he beat were cheating (Jamaicans and Americans) and he not only beat these athletes but he absolutely oblierated them. Like no one was in his stratosphere......

Either Usain Bolt is the most blessed human who ever lived to have the natural skill and ability to dominate the best athletes in the world who were on PEDs or he was on PEDs too and he was just better than them......like Barry Bonds. I know what I believe.
 

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It's not that he beat an American. It's that his own teamates & people he trained with were cheating, the people he beat were cheating (Jamaicans and Americans) and he not only beat these athletes but he absolutely oblierated them. Like no one was in his stratosphere......

Either Usain Bolt is the most blessed human who ever lived to have the natural skill and ability to dominate the best athletes in the world who were on PEDs or he was on PEDs too and he was just better than them......like Barry Bonds. I know what I believe.

He's the most blessed human being.

I was at the national stadium when he was running U-17 200 and 400. He was elite at both at that level but had injury issues. When he went professional and focused on the sprints, it was just a matter of time till he dominated (if he stayed healthy). The height in combination with the turnover rate was going to be devastating. Other sprinters have had the same turnover rate but a longer set of legs made him the anomaly.


There have been tall sprinters since(remember Ryan Bailey, Polo association to Bolt's Ralph Lauren) but they just didn't have the right combination. Anything can happen but I don't think we'll ever see anyone run as fast in our lifetimes. You waste your time casting suspicions instead of enjoying what was the best moment in track and field history. Doping is so prevalent in sprinting that everyone has 2 degrees of separation from a doper, but that in itself does not make them a doper. No one was drug tested more than Bolt, y'all spent all them resources trying to find something that wasn't there.
 

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It's not that he beat an American. It's that his own teamates & people he trained with were cheating, the people he beat were cheating (Jamaicans and Americans) and he not only beat these athletes but he absolutely oblierated them. Like no one was in his stratosphere......

Either Usain Bolt is the most blessed human who ever lived to have the natural skill and ability to dominate the best athletes in the world who were on PEDs or he was on PEDs too and he was just better than them......like Barry Bonds. I know what I believe.

He was doping :mjlol: He made them look like boys. It's all good. Kobe is my favorite player and I'm sure he took PEDs. They all do :manny:

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