J. Cole Goes at Noname in New Song, Update: Noname Claps Back

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I don’t even know what going on anymore. Seriously, I don’t. You can’t talk to people no more.

That was beyond respectful. Some of us seem to have this mentality that we just need to shut up and follow them to salvation because they have all the answers. People don’t want to be talked down to, that’s all dude said. You want to get some rappers to do something pick up the phone and call them. How she handled herself was condescending and counter productive.

Some of these cats out here trying to get out in front are not sincere and looking for some limelight.
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Exactly, ol "oh woke all knowing black woman please lead the way" pandering didn't turn out too well. This is what happens when you handle these women with kid gloves and try to couch your criticism inside a bunch of compliments

yep all these “our queens” ass nikkas babying these women afraid to voice an opinion and stand by it will all get turned on eventually, bytch ass terry cruise saw it first hand
 

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yep all these “our queens” ass nikkas babying these women afraid to voice an opinion and stand by it will all get turned on eventually, bytch ass terry cruise saw it first hand
Agreed. We need to get off this corny ass "king and queen" shyt because these types don't even find it valuable.
 

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also this tweet from the booth thread sums up my thoughts:



twitter just a hivemind of mentally ill shut ins looking to bytch about something and when they got nothing, they'll make something up to bytch about.

brehs is out here getting lynched and the media is ignoring it and they bytching about a strawman in their heads.
 

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Exactly, ol "oh woke all knowing black woman please lead the way" pandering didn't turn out too well. This is what happens when you handle these women with kid gloves and try to couch your criticism inside a bunch of compliments
Lmaooo I normally don’t agree with this but this 100% true

he tried pamper em with kind words instead of saying how he felt now they grillin him
 

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I don’t like anyone that’s been mentioned itt so far
 

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This is all fukking corny.

Cole had two valid points.

First was that yes, sometimes the tone people take online with pursuing causes is too aggressive, and ends up being counterproductive. Not everyone is going to be inspired to be better by someone telling them they aren't shyt for not having knowledge. There's times when that approach works (like people playing dumb about concepts like white privilege, and what these protests are actually about), but when it's a conversation between us about learning our history, our rights, and how to effectively go about getting what we want, that ain't it. There are those of us out here that don't even know how oppressed we are. They're gonna need a bit of a lighter touch, and more work than others.

Secondly, he essentially says that online activism mostly boils down to you telling people who already share your views how you feel. And to an extent, that's correct.

This turning into another "black men don't support black women's argument is truly disappointing. Especially since this started with her calling out men for not doing enough. Everyone involved fell into one of the oldest traps used to water down any attempt we make at progress, and everyone really should know better at this point.
 
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