Jesus proven not to be the messiah

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Angels can be spirits . You keep talking, but have no knowledge of the bible

Hebrews 1:7
And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.


This is the regard the birth of John the Baptist. I guess his mom has a ghost baby daddy too

Luke 1:13-15​

King James Version​

13 But the angel said unto him, Fear not, Zacharias: for thy prayer is heard; and thy wife Elisabeth shall bear thee a son, and thou shalt call his name John.

14 And thou shalt have joy and gladness; and many shall rejoice at his birth.
15 For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb.

Zacharias and Joseph are John & Christ biological fathers.
in literal hebrew if you look at it my way

it can be interpreted as

"and of the messengers he says, who makes his messengers breaths and his priests like fire?"
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Read the Gospels, man. They all talk about the same stuff, but they don’t line up exactly with each one giving a different angle. The resurrection stories especially? Mark, Matthew, Luke, and John all have different details, and some stuff is straight up left out or added depending on who’s writing.

All four Gospels say Jesus rose, but the details don’t line up cleanly. In Mark, a few women find the tomb empty, a guy in white tells them Jesus is alive, and they freak out and bail. Jesus doesn’t even show up in the earliest version. Matthew adds an earthquake, an angel rolling the stone away, and Jesus showing up to the women and later the disciples in Galilee. Luke has a group of women, two angels at the tomb, and Jesus showing up later to two guys on the road and then the disciples, all around Jerusalem but no Galilee. John is all about Mary Magdalene. She finds the tomb empty, sees two angels, then actually talks to Jesus. Later, He appears to the disciples in Jerusalem, and it’s the only Gospel with the whole “Doubting Thomas” scene.

The same core event, but the who, what, and where? All over the place. You gotta read them side by side to catch it. So yeah, it’s all over the place when you really study it. And you have to ask, just why is that?
Why you think that is?
 
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There are too many religions and God’s with different stories and backgrounds. The only conclusion can be it’s made up to indoctrinate people. They can’t all be right. After all these years not a single religion has proven anything. Also I recently read Jesus had a grandfather. So God the “Almighty” had a father or am I trippin. It makes no Damn sense
 

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Come on bro, here y’all go again. Jesus quotes something and now it’s supposed to be a prophecy about him? That’s not how this works. I’m asking for OT proof, not NT spin. Psalm 110 says “my lord” or adoni, which just means a human ruler, not God. There’s still zero mention of Jesus, Yeshua, or a messiah that dies and comes back. You gotta bring OT receipts, not just Jesus saying “this me.”

I mean come on, I’m begging at this point. Can someone show me in the OT, the foundation Christianity was built on, how Jesus aligns with the messiah described in the OT??

You wanna know another funny thing? If Jesus was born immaculately, that would mean he’s not a descendent of Joseph, which would mean he’s not a descendent of David. In the Bible it traces the line through Joseph. Not Mary. :mindblown:

Jewish tradition, tracing lineage, that is defined through the PAPPY. :mindblown:

The argument is he’s related to David through Mary.
 
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There are too many religions and God’s with different stories and backgrounds. The only conclusion can be it’s made up to indoctrinate people. They can’t all be right. After all these years not a single religion has proven anything. Also I recently read Jesus had a grandfather. So God the “Almighty” had a father or am I trippin. It makes no Damn sense

I agree. One thing I can say with nearly 100 percent certainty is that Christianity has very little to do with Judaism / OT. They are completely different religions. What Jesus and his followers were going around saying would be considered straight up blasphemous in comparison to what YHWH himself said / instructed.
 
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The argument is he’s related to David through Mary.
No he's related to David through Joseph


  • Matthew 1:1-17:
    This section of Matthew's Gospel traces Joseph's lineage back to Abraham, highlighting his connection to David and the royal line. It emphasizes Joseph's role in Jesus' legal claim to the throne of David.
  • Luke 3:23-38:
    Luke's genealogy traces the lineage of Jesus, starting with Jesus as the "son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli". This genealogy is understood to be Mary's lineage, tracing back to Adam.
 

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No he's related to David through Joseph


  • Matthew 1:1-17:
    This section of Matthew's Gospel traces Joseph's lineage back to Abraham, highlighting his connection to David and the royal line. It emphasizes Joseph's role in Jesus' legal claim to the throne of David.
  • Luke 3:23-38:
    Luke's genealogy traces the lineage of Jesus, starting with Jesus as the "son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli". This genealogy is understood to be Mary's lineage, tracing back to Adam.
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Believe Jesus was a Half Angel/Half Human demi God brehs…… :mjlol:

History literally repeats itself :ehh:

Next comes Gnosticism to the rescue :lolbron:

Then ISLAM :sadcam: (submission :umad: )


[Callisto] chose to occupy herself with wild-beasts in the mountains together with Artemis, and, when she was seduced by Zeus, continued some time undetected by the goddess, but afterwards, when she was already with child, was seen by her bathing and so discovered. Upon this, the goddess was enraged and changed her into a beast. Thus she became a bear and gave birth to a son called Arcas. But while she was in the mountains, she was hunted by some goat-herds and given up with her babe to Lycaon. Some while after, she thought fit to go into the forbidden precinct of Zeus, not knowing the law, and being pursued by her own son and the Arcadians, was about to be killed because of the said law; but Zeus delivered her because of her connection with him and put her among the stars, giving her the name Bear because of the misfortune which had befallen her.

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