Just came back from a black feminist meeting

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So are any of you going to change the way you do things on a day to day basis? Or was this just a venting session?

The only way Black people as a whole will improve is if we practice group economics. We support/build our own businesses and educate/mentor our youth. Pretty much what the Jews, Asians, Indians etc. all do, and that's why they're doing better than us on an economic stage in this country. This will have a trickle down effect which will benefit both sexes, by providing more financially stable mates with better jobs and opportunities.

Simply playing the blame game isn't going to get us anywhere, at a certain point you have to move beyond that.
 

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Didn't read through the whole thread, but I am curious how many of these women were middle class (whether blue/white collar) OP @Willstyles I ask because the class construction/dynamics in feminism in general has always been an interesting one, especially as it relates to Black feminist writings where the way middle class Black feminists authors/writers/"journalists" specifically portray poor Black men has often been problematic imo. And I should add with the new dynamics of gentrification, where middle class college educated Blacks move into poor Black/Latino neighborhoods (east harlem is where I personally saw this)there often isn't much unity or respectable interaction, I have seen this firsthand...for all the complaining about white gentrifiers and being insulated their Black counterparts can be just as bad.
 
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i stop reading when i saw the part that black men is not around to protect them

talking about brothers killing themselves and going to jail..when majority of them come from single parents homes where there own naive mothers didnt protect them..

stop having kids wit losers and u wouldnt have a problem. black men are always the issue but not the person looking in the mirror
 

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I agree with you, but understand these women are afraid to speak out, some was even worried about what I might say about them. They get written off as being bitter so many times, its literally destroys them because all they wanna do is be heard by us. To some degree i think us men are afraid of agreeing with them, god knows I was. I didnt wanna feel soft and agreeing with women about blaming my brothers would have make me worse but it wasnt that they was blaming us, they was just speaking from the heart and I had to leave my feelings at the door to understand them.. I think we have to do work in our groups before we can help each other, cause it can take on comment to be taken the wrong way and its all over.
I agree. I think black women are afraid to speak up for the same reason you might find a black male afraid to speak up about general black issues.

I think society created an environment of shaming any black person that speaks on black issues. They constantly show black people who commit crimes or make mistakes and they never show black people that are doing well. What that does is it conditions people to loose all compassion for black people. "The deserve what happens to them...look at how they act."

"Angry black man", "Angry black woman", "Blacks complain too much", "blacks deserve what happens to them". Because there is this public shamming when a black person speaks out on issues that affect black people, it conditions us to hide our pain.

When I used to fukk with hood bytches, I swear no matter how hardened a chick acted you can tell they were extra vulnerable on the inside. It's fukked up that the world hates us so much its makes woman afraid to look for love. I dealt with chicks with deep male issues (mainly daddy issues) and the ironic thing about it is that their resentment and dis-trust they have for the men of their pasts pushes away any possible positive man from being in their future. I understand completely why they are hurt.

But as complex as the problem woman are, the issues that black men deal with are equally as complex.

I tihnk in order to fix this thing and end the cycle is to start a completely new way of thinking and both black men and black women will have to forget about our scars of the past and take a leap of faith. We have to trust that when we jump out partners will catch us but that is a hard thing to do when black men and black woman have been mentally and emotionally traumatized by all that we have been through in recent history and in present day society.

Its fukked up what these cacs started...they are innately evil.
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So it's the man's fault because we have nasty lil responses, so they can't tell us the real reason why the
i stop reading when i saw the part that black men is not around to protect them

talking about brothers killing themselves and going to jail..when majority of them come from single parents homes where there own naive mothers didnt protect them..

stop having kids wit losers and u wouldnt have a problem. black men are always the issue but not the person looking in the mirror

Pretty much. Feminism told these women they didn't need a man and how they were miss independent. "Don't let a man tell you what to do girl!" Hmmm, don't you think that attitude was one of the root causes of why there isn't a man in the household? If you continually say you don't need a man in the household, you don't let men do what men are supposed to do in the household-- lead, and you are constantly acting in a fashion that repels men from staying in the household, what do you think will happen? Oh yeah, there won't be a man in the household. This is the root cause for single-mother households popping up and the starting of a cycle that continues to do. Blacks actually had one of the highest marriage rates in America until feminism and welfare hit, and guess who they field-tested those family busting techniques on first? That's right, us. Now they're taking those techniques mainstream, which is why you're seeing all of these white families start to break up more and more as well.
 

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Willstyles is a good black man, no homo. I think we need more men like him and less men like tommy. I think we need to be a little more soft on our hoes. You know what I mean?
 

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Dont waste your life on jumpoffs. Dont wait till your flabby to find a wife. If you want jumpoffs at least have a wife. Dual income is the future of america. Single mothers and broke nikkas will be obsolete.
 

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So it's the man's fault because we have nasty lil responses, so they can't tell us the real reason why the


Pretty much. Feminism told these women they didn't need a man and how they were miss independent. "Don't let a man tell you what to do girl!" Hmmm, don't you think that attitude was one of the root causes of why there isn't a man in the household? If you continually say you don't need a man in the household, you don't let men do what men are supposed to do in the household-- lead, and you are constantly acting in a fashion that repels men from staying in the household, what do you think will happen? Oh yeah, there won't be a man in the household. This is the root cause for single-mother households popping up and the starting of a cycle that continues to do. Blacks actually had one of the highest marriage rates in America until feminism and welfare hit, and guess who they field-tested those family busting techniques on first? That's right, us. Now they're taking those techniques mainstream, which is why you're seeing all of these white families start to break up more and more as well.

No, Black feminism is the result from broken families, social engineering and racist.

You dont understand what these women are truly fighting for

nikka did you read anything in my original post
 

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Willstyles is a good black man, no homo. I think we need more men like him and less men like tommy. I think we need to be a little more soft on our hoes. You know what I mean?

I think we need to be more soft on each other and understand these barriers arent helping us build families. We have a bunch of black men and women wanting the same thing from each other but doesnt know how to express that properly.
 
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