Kevin Samuels Discussion Thread

[Voice of Reason]

Both groups? I would say more so the black woman has to improve the structure. Black men never left. We are still here waiting for the black woman to come back to the table with humility and to take accountability of their ways that they have/are expressing.

The mother is the first teacher that a child knows. Sharazzada Ali, who KS gets most of his information from, stated the mother is the first to show a child what's right and what's wrong. If the father is not in the home, let's ask why he's not in the home? Who put the father out of the home or caused the father to not be in the home?

If you want to say he is a no good black man, why make a baby with a no good black man? Again it falls back on the woman's selection.

All those other non black families fathers happened to remain in the home but black men have been forced out? What is different between the families. A man is in the home in other races, and the black men/ones are not? Let's ask why is this the case?

These non-black families are poor just like the black families, so it's not a financial issue. Many of those families are under the poverty line as well just as the breh stated. The women over in the EAST understand how to treat their men.

They know the importance of marriage and understand that they need a man to survive

This is ridiculous black men have failed in multiple ways and it’s reflective in how dysfunctional our women and children behave . Placing the blame on the woman is weak and pathetic.

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

Yeah, no one gives a fukk.

We literally watched the world protest with us and dems, Republicans, companies, all of them waltzed right past us with fake ass “we support black lives” and proceeded to do NOTHING for us. In fact, shyt went worse with them changing voting and schooling and laws to further fukk us over.

You wasting your breathe. They don’t give a fukk till it hits their pockets. Look at the pandemic. Nobody gives two fukks for real about it. Support essential employees campaign and send them right back to work for crumbs and dead the eviction hold and fukk them. And they’re white people.

Nobody cares. Can’t even wear a mask and stay in. And that’s common people caring about the health of other common people. All races. Nope. Gotta get to Cancun and back to the club.

nobody fukking cares

 

[Roid Jones]

Breh, you don’t see all the threads being made on here on how to get women; and the first thing almost everyone says is don’t worry about women and get in shape and get money.

Some nikkas get mad when they hear that because it’s repeated so many times. nikkas be like “I don’t wanna hear no more shyt about the gym.”

Yeah it's disingenuous when people act like men are not being held accountable/being asked to be accountable, what do people think, 'go to the gym, get money, focus on yourself, improve your career' means

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

you really believe what this white man says when his whole life has been built off of who he knows and what connections he has.

Black people are some fools. White people say anything and black people just believe it

You not grasping the point. He’s telling me straight up, he don’t give two fukks about me, you, his boss, or anybody else UNLESS IT AFFECTS HIM PERSONALLY.

I also can make the same statement about him. I can probably guess 89% of the coli really don’t give a fukk bout others like that. Not to DO something bout it really. And if you do, you expecting the other people to care about you and what you want.

People don’t give two fukks about other people outside their circle. Of course he got connects. Those people give a fukk. You know who don’t want to hear his sob story and give him a shortcut? Me, you and the other 7 billion people who don’t know him.

That’s the point. So no. Nobody can tell me anything and I believe it cause I never believe they have my best interest at heart in the first place.

 

[jay83]

It still amazes me the level of comfort many have when disrespecting their own on social media. Like I have my qualms with women but I would never go on Facebook and post “black women are trash” or some passive aggressive meme. There’s ways to address things and posting something like this never works anyway.

 

[NO-BadAzz]

This is ridiculous black men have failed in multiple ways and it’s reflective in how dysfunctional our women and children behave . Placing the blame on the woman is weak and pathetic.

You quoted my post with no substance, more of a feeling that you have.

I respect that's how you felt when you woke up this morning and decided to make the statement with no substance, you quoted my post but did not provide no substance to any of my questions and statements in the post.

You added nothing breh.

 

[NO-BadAzz]

I guess it depends on if you only see the women as having issues. I think both are defective which is why our community is. I’m also concerned with how many bw and bm have never had relationships or aren’t dating anyone (not even nonblack women and men). A lot of bm and bw are single—some in an revolving door of situationships, and some not getting those experiences at all. Both groups seem frustrated and unsatisfied with the dating pool and with each other.

But I think this is mirroring what’s going to eventually happen to other groups too. It’s only a matter of time. There’s already a prediction that there will be a lot of single women of all races within the next two decades.

Both groups are defective, (lets go with that), black men have been hearing it for some time now, most men that are about something are moving out of the whole "defective" light. have seeked help or have coped with the blemishes of their life and found ways to be better themselves. When folks wanna say men are "defective" many of the times, they are not thinking about the top 15% of men that are earning over 75k or more, these "defective" men are the men that have a mindset of a rapper, child like, can't hold a job, not really trying to build or do anything, the "thug" wanna be rapper, low and out man, (who shouldn't be allowed to be with a woman anyway)

You have men that are average earners have a mind-set to wanna build and enjoy life with the right woman, they are not with the goofy shyt, they just wanna live off their 42k-65k and try and get the best out of the life with a cooperative woman. Women don't want these men, so how are these men defective when they are not being wanted by our bw?

Most men that are in the top 15% of earnings making 75k are not "defective" Most men making that kind of money, wanna keep making that money and they want to bring someone into their life who is going to add, multiply to that pot, not subtract or divide. That's the mind-set of most of these men, that doesn't scream defective to me

So who are the ones really defective? One group of men are not wanted, and another group are so focus on improving their lives.

So what group is really defective?

When men think about "defective" women that can range from your ratchet, hood woman all the way to the woman with the PHDs, as KS has showed us, that "defectiveness" goes across the board with the women.

Many Men who have shyt going for them are not trying to lose it, and they are looking to add to it and add a family with it.

The thing is, men that have shyt going for them, tend to be better men, want to become better men so they can raise their kids to be better as well.

A woman can have all and still be on some goofy shyt as we've seen on KS show. More Resources or better opportunities along with cooperation tend to bring the best out of men

 

[Wiseborn]

Lol

Think that youtube would remove a money spinner to appease a money loser, Fail to understand that Youtube is a business brehettes.

 

[Wiseborn]

Breh, I never really paid any attention, but anybody, check out the music that some of these chicks listen to, mostly hard rap, empty hollow flat love R&B songs, shyt is sad around, the whole playlist that they have is either ratchet shyt or some down and out I'm fading/drowning shyt.

I have yet to find a chick around 25-28 listening to Anita Baker, that kind of music sends energy and signals to your mind and just whole mind-frame, it shapes your outlook on how to treat people, or someone that you want to care for.

I've started for some reason, looking at a chick's playlist and if I don't see any Anita Baker, some ole school shyt such as SWV, etc. man I already know what time it is with this chick.

There's a appreciation thread about Anita Baker, guarantee if you find a chick in that age range playing that, their whole life would be softer, caring, and more soothing

That's a great point I've literally dated chicks based on fukking with the same artists.

Back in the 90's music was basically the same as it is now minus the face tatts but there was always an underground of positive affirming music.

Forget about strictly Pro Black Music but also Music that talked about the positives of being in Love and in a relationship.

Now it's all My Man done me wrong or I got to finesse these nikkas because their ain't no good Men.


I'm not saying Anita had My Man done me wrong songs but I can't think of any all her hits that I remember where celebrating being in Love.


I may seem super duper Red pill but there's a slew of positive songs about Black Women as a group and Love being a good thing in general. I don't listen to the radio but I haven't heard a song post 2010 that bigged up love in general much less Black Love in particular.

 

[General Mills]

Lol

This is just sad all the way around. Wow

 

[Wiseborn]

As long as the men of our community blame our women for most of the problems in our community we will not be taken seriously as leaders in our own community.

I've watched this thread for a while. There is very little accountability taken for the role bm have played in the state of our community. The fact that KS is lauded as some sort of guiding light and grown men are calling a man they've never met "godfather" is troubling. Most of the time there is a deflection to the racism of dominant society or to women not being on the same page with us in here. Even though bm marry out at a higher rate, and most of bw still want bm. That would be a valid claim except our grandfathers, great grandfathers, etc. all managed to out perform the current generation despite higher legal and physical discrimination and violence. Quality leaders hold themselves accountable first and work to fix problems before point the finger. Alot of so called men sound entitled. I dont hear anything in here about men having sex irresponsibly, I don't hear anything about how much of our entertainment (bm dominated) espouses messages surrounding debauchery and violence, I don't hear anything in here about the lack of a desire to be physically fit in our community when it isn't tied to professional sports, I dont hear anything about what we are doing to fix our communities and culture as men who are supposed to be leaders. Alot of yall want someone to follow you but you don't want the burden of leadership.

What kind of King blames the queen for all the problems of his kingdom?

Too many men in here are fat, barely have a career, no 5/10/15 year plan, no mentors, have a porn addiction, weak social skills, and are addicted to entertainment but want a fit, feminine, cooperative woman that will listen to them. Many of you couldn't lead your ass to a toilet if someone gave you a road map but expect someone else to follow you.

Shxts ridiculous.

The accountabilty comes in because of the laws. Dude seeds up Brittany Renner he gets hit with a massive child support payment. Dude walks out on his wife she gets the house the car and alimony payments, Dude smacks his wife or girlfriend? Jail time.

 

[Wiseborn]

We literally watched the world protest with us and dems, Republicans, companies, all of them waltzed right past us with fake ass “we support black lives” and proceeded to do NOTHING for us. In fact, shyt went worse with them changing voting and schooling and laws to further fukk us over.

You wasting your breathe. They don’t give a fukk till it hits their pockets. Look at the pandemic. Nobody gives two fukks for real about it. Support essential employees campaign and send them right back to work for crumbs and dead the eviction hold and fukk them. And they’re white people.

Nobody cares. Can’t even wear a mask and stay in. And that’s common people caring about the health of other common people. All races. Nope. Gotta get to Cancun and back to the club.

nobody fukking cares

Exactly. They had the Paro (unemployment) protests and Riots and Cali Colombia was pretty fukked up. At that time they were considering reinstating total lockdowns. They stopped the protests. Tomorrow is independence day and nobody is expecting the protests to turn out like the last ones did.

 

[CarmelBarbie]

Yes. Very much so.

I think it’s just being realistic and knowing your lane. You got tons of women that are average looking who are holding out for the top 5 percent of dudes and they aren’t even top 30 percent themselves.

it’s like a journeyman athlete holding out trying to get a max contract and turning down offers from teams then they end up out the league because they didn’t know their lane.

I think as a woman if you’re willing to put in the work you can want whatever you want in a man. But many think it’s owed to them.

I had to ponder on this but y’all are right. Based on what I’ve seen, it seems like more bm find the bw in their lane attractive, compared to the reverse. I think it’s honestly for the best that those women just stay single if they aren’t willing to do the work to improve themselves to get the men that they actually want.

It’s really of no benefit for y’all to be with women that aren’t attracted/sexually desire you, as that contributes to her not wanting to have sex with you, cheating on you with the men she is attracted to, and not respecting you because you aren’t what she wants. Imo it’s best for men to be with women who sexually desire and respect them.

 

[Wiseborn]

I had to ponder on this but y’all are right. Based on what I’ve seen, it seems like more bm find the bw in their lane attractive, compared to the reverse. I think it’s honestly for the best that those women just stay single if they aren’t willing to do the work to improve themselves to get the men that they actually want.

It’s really of no benefit for y’all to be with women that aren’t attracted/sexually desire you, as that contributes to her not wanting to have sex with you, cheating on you with the men she is attracted to, and not respecting you because you aren’t what she wants. Imo it’s best for men to be with women who sexually desire and respect them.

By George she's got it!!!!

That's really the essence of this at the end of the day Black people and ADOS especially has had their mind's colonized. They literally look at Black People the way white people look at Black People.

That's why a random redneck Man or woman is seen as "better" than the average Black person to Black People.

The reason why I say this is kinda of more represented in ADOS as opposed to non ADOS is that yes most Black People believe in white supremacy babble but the difference is at the end of the day outside of certain areas of the capital cites most Black People in Black countries rarely see non Black people thus you can't live in a house designed and built by Black Men and say Black Men don't build Or I dont date Black women.

You're also right if Black People really think that non Black ice cubes are colder then they need to fukk with non Black ice cubes and leave Black people alone.

 

[CarmelBarbie]

Both groups are defective, (lets go with that), black men have been hearing it for some time now, most men that are about something are moving out of the whole "defective" light. have seeked help or have coped with the blemishes of their life and found ways to be better themselves. When folks wanna say men are "defective" many of the times, they are not thinking about the top 15% of men that are earning over 75k or more, these "defective" men are the men that have a mindset of a rapper, child like, can't hold a job, not really trying to build or do anything, the "thug" wanna be rapper, low and out man, (who shouldn't be allowed to be with a woman anyway)

You have men that are average earners have a mind-set to wanna build and enjoy life with the right woman, they are not with the goofy shyt, they just wanna live off their 42k-65k and try and get the best out of the life with a cooperative woman. Women don't want these men, so how are these men defective when they are not being wanted by our bw?

Most men that are in the top 15% of earnings making 75k are not "defective" Most men making that kind of money, wanna keep making that money and they want to bring someone into their life who is going to add, multiply to that pot, not subtract or divide. That's the mind-set of most of these men, that doesn't scream defective to me

So who are the ones really defective? One group of men are not wanted, and another group are so focus on improving their lives.

So what group is really defective?

When men think about "defective" women that can range from your ratchet, hood woman all the way to the woman with the PHDs, as KS has showed us, that "defectiveness" goes across the board with the women.

Many Men who have shyt going for them are not trying to lose it, and they are looking to add to it and add a family with it.

The thing is, men that have shyt going for them, tend to be better men, want to become better men so they can raise their kids to be better as well.

A woman can have all and still be on some goofy shyt as we've seen on KS show. More Resources or better opportunities along with cooperation tend to bring the best out of men

Hmmm, well me and my girls and my sisters all make over 75k, and date men who do too. I don’t think these men are hard to get either—if your in those social circles you meet these men by default. When I think of high value I think of the men that make substantially more than that, and again as I mentioned before, most bw are not in those circles—they don’t have access and won’t get those men.

I think in our community we often make the mistake of believing that just because a man or woman went to college and has a good job that they are by default a good man or woman. A woman can go to college and have a good job but still have bad judgement/poor decision making when it comes to men and vice versus.

but like I admitted in another response I do think y’all are onto something when y’all say that there are bw who don’t want the men in their lane. I think it’s for the best that those women are single, it’s of no benefit to you to be with a woman who doesn’t truly want you.

But I also think that both bm and bw are not in the best positions they can be in, and that our community is highly dysfunctional and it’s not just bw contributing to the dysfunction. It’s both groups.