Kevin Samuels Discussion Thread

[CarmelBarbie]

By George she's got it!!!!

That's really the essence of this at the end of the day Black people and ADOS especially has had their mind's colonized. They literally look at Black People the way white people look at Black People.

That's why a random redneck Man or woman is seen as "better" than the average Black person to Black People.

The reason why I say this is kinda of more represented in ADOS as opposed to non ADOS is that yes most Black People believe in white supremacy babble but the difference is at the end of the day outside of certain areas of the capital cites most Black People in Black countries rarely see non Black people thus you can't live in a house designed and built by Black Men and say Black Men don't build Or I dont date Black women.

You're also right if Black People really think that non Black ice cubes are colder then they need to fukk with non Black ice cubes and leave Black people alone.

interesting—I have heard that from nonados people before too.

As for your last paragraph I agree. Look, I think bw and bm who feel like they have better experiences with nonblacks just need to be with nonblacks and call it a day. I personally don’t like white people enough(their ways or their looks) to fukk them, but if that’s who they think is better then that’s just who they need to be with.

 

[Treblemaka]

Breh, you don’t see all the threads being made on here on how to get women; and the first thing almost everyone says is don’t worry about women and get in shape and get money.

Some nikkas get mad when they hear that because it’s repeated so many times. nikkas be like “I don’t wanna hear no more shyt about the gym.”

That's fair.

Getting money and being in shape are parts of it but they don't address character and discipline

The accountabilty comes in because of the laws. Dude seeds up Brittany Renner he gets hit with a massive child support payment. Dude walks out on his wife she gets the house the car and alimony payments, Dude smacks his wife or girlfriend? Jail time.

He impregnated and was in a relationship with a known whore. What he's paying is called a stupidity tax. He's a millionaire who clearly enjoys giving his money away. He has to look in the mirror every day knowing his child is being raised by a prostitute, that is his fault.

Also:
- Most men don't pay alimony
- Only 40% of black households own a home, so there isn't usually a home to give her

The average Black man doesn't make the money to pay alimony or buy a house so these stats don't apply to him.


If a man is using the law as a way to hold himself accountable he's already lost. Personal accountability is the only type that will help a man grow and forge him into someone worth following.

The law doesnt keep from someone from being a bum
The law doesn't keep a man in his Mommas house
The law doesn't make him directionless
The law isn't the reason he's following a Digital version of Phil Donahue for guidance
The law isn't the reason he has no mentors

He is the primary reason he isnt shxt in this world. Not bw, not his parents, not his community, not hateful dominant society. While they all play a role, he is the person is the most responsible for himself.

His lifestyle is a testimony to his decisions and thought process over time.

 

[CarmelBarbie]

So how do the men get the power and resources when other men do not want that to happen? Only few Black men get power and resources.

One running joke is that black women don’t want men that work 9-5s and only want thugs. They don’t want squares. So these women pick and choose who to be with, then get upset when said men don’t want to lead a household.

I don’t see how men not having power and resources causes Black women to be overweight, not feminine, and with a bad attitude. I don’t see how all of these fixable things are the black man’s fault.

These women can control what they eat, they can work on their attitudes and being feminine. Then they can look for a “good guy” to lead and have a family with. Her being overweight with a bad attitude also messes up her chances with all men.

Black men getting power and resources is a lot more difficult. You really think there aren’t any barriers for them to get this? You think that most of them want to be broke and powerless?

And I’m not saying that’s how you feel, just addressing what was said in the videos.

Well i don’t know many women who move that way tbh, so it’s hard for me to speak on that. I just really can’t think of one professional woman I know very well that is choosing thugs. I know it happens though, but I just don’t know those women. I can only say that like attracts like. If they’re choosing thugs, it’s for a reason.

im of the personal opinion that bw should strive to be fit anyway—it’s just good for your health to work out and eat right. Do most bm want thin women though? I was called the biggest hater on this site because I used to call out all those threads that put overweight and “plus size” women on a pedestal. I think slim and slim thick women look the best personally—I would love to see more bw in those ranges.

Of course I think there are barriers that make it difficult for bm. And those barriers aren’t going away on their own—we need to figure out a way to overthrow/take down that system. That’s the only way, or decades from now we’ll be saying the same thing. At some point black people are going to have to fight back, unless we accept and are okay with the system as it is, and many of us are not. It’s a conversation many want to avoid but at some point if we’re not talking about rising up against this system and fighting back, then we’re accepting defeat and remaining at the bottom.

 

[Wiseborn]

interesting—I have heard that from nonados people before too.

As for your last paragraph I agree. Look, I think bw and bm who feel like they have better experiences with nonblacks just need to be with nonblacks and call it a day. I personally don’t like white people enough(their ways or their looks) to fukk them, but if that’s who they think is better then that’s just who they need to be with.

exactly Black People need to find a way to separate themselves from people who don't like them. white cops specifically apply to Police agencies with high Black populations white teachers go out of their way to teach in the hood. Black People Men and women loudly tell Black why they don't measure up to other races in dating, Asians come thousands of miles to set up businesses in the hood then complain about their customers.

I really wish we could all Go Back to Africa if it meant getting the fukk away from people who do not like us.



Now speaking about Black women specifically I don't know what happened but back in the day a 50 year old 5'10" dude 50 pounds overweight making 50K a year would be a totally acceptable step daddy to a 40 year old 40 pounds overweight chick making 40K with 50K in student loan debt but now it suddenly ain't and you can't even suggest that she should link with the 50 year old


Her Grandmother literally jumped at such a guy the only thing I can see is that Intergration happened.

 

[Wiseborn]

That's fair.

Getting money and being in shape are parts of it but they don't address character and discipline


He impregnated and was in a relationship with a known whore. What he's paying is called a stupidity tax. He's a millionaire who clearly enjoys giving his money away. He has to look in the mirror every day knowing his child is being raised by a prostitute, that is his fault.

Also:
- Most men don't pay alimony
- Only 40% of black households own a home, so there isn't usually a home to give her

The average Black man doesn't make the money to pay alimony or buy a house so these stats don't apply to him.


If a man is using the law as a way to hold himself accountable he's already lost. Personal accountability is the only type that will help a man grow and forge him into someone worth following.

The law doesnt keep from someone from being a bum
The law doesn't keep a man in his Mommas house
The law doesn't make him directionless
The law isn't the reason he's following a Digital version of Phil Donahue for guidance
The law isn't the reason he has no mentors

He is the primary reason he isnt shxt in this world. Not bw, not his parents, not his community, not hateful dominant society. While they all play a role, he is the person is the most responsible for himself.

His lifestyle is a testimony to his decisions and thought process over time.

We're filtering out the nikkas who don't have homes are bums etc, because lets be honest you can't be broke and ugly and think you're getting anywhere with Black women, There's incels on this very board.


I will say I remember talking to a dude who got divorced and he didn't have to pay alimony (he was in the military) but I had a solider who was trying to divorce his wife and the wife wouldn't grant him the divorce because he was near his indepth date where she could get a piece of his retirement check.

One state was an amicable no fault divorce and the other state the person getting divorced from could appeal to try to reconcile before a divorce is granted.

The funny thing was the no fault case was in Maryland and the appeal case was in Virginia, I shouldn't put this out there but both worked for me at different times on the same base in Virginia at Fort Belvior so dudes were commuting but the laws are different in different states.

 

[CarmelBarbie]

exactly Black People need to find a way to separate themselves from people who don't like them. White cops specifically apply to Police agencies with high Black populations white teachers go out of their way to teach in the hood. Black People Men and women loudly tell Black why they don't measure up to other races in dating, Asians come thousands of miles to set up businesses in the hood then complain about their customers.

I really wish we could all Go Back to Africa if it meant getting the fukk away from people who do not like us.



Now speaking about Black women specifically I don't know what happened but back in the day a 50 year old 5'10" dude 50 pounds overweight making 50K a year would be a totally acceptable step daddy to a 40 year old 40 pounds overweight chick making 40K with 50K in student loan debt but now it suddenly ain't and you can't even suggest that she should link with the 50 year old


Her Grandmother literally jumped at such a guy the only thing I can see is that Intergration happened.

That’s a question. I think it’s a reflection of the times. Our society is more shallow than ever. These issues are always seen more in our community before they expand to others. I think women are putting more emphasis on looks now then they used to in the past. Sex is more important to women now—they don’t just want a Jan who makes good money, they want a man who they get wet enough for to cum.

We're filtering out the nikkas who don't have homes are bums etc, because lets be honest you can't be broke and ugly and think you're getting anywhere with Black women, There's incels on this very board.


I will say I remember talking to a dude who got divorced and he didn't have to pay alimony (he was in the military) but I had a solider who was trying to divorce his wife and the wife wouldn't grant him the divorce because he was near his indepth date where she could get a piece of his retirement check.

One state was an amicable no fault divorce and the other state the person getting divorced from could appeal to try to reconcile before a divorce is granted.

The funny thing was the no fault case was in Maryland and the appeal case was in Virginia, I shouldn't put this out there but both worked for me at different times on the same base in Virginia at Fort Belvior so dudes were commuting but the laws are different in different states.

I’m dead breh, I just busted out laughing at the bolded.

 

[NO-BadAzz]

Hmmm, well me and my girls and my sisters all make over 75k, and date men who do too. I don’t think these men are hard to get either—if your in those social circles you meet these men by default. When I think of high value I think of the men that make substantially more than that, and again as I mentioned before, most bw are not in those circles—they don’t have access and won’t get those men.

I think in our community we often make the mistake of believing that just because a man or woman went to college and has a good job that they are by default a good man or woman. A woman can go to college and have a good job but still have bad judgement/poor decision making when it comes to men and vice versus.

but like I admitted in another response I do think y’all are onto something when y’all say that there are bw who don’t want the men in their lane. I think it’s for the best that those women are single, it’s of no benefit to you to be with a woman who doesn’t truly want you.

But I also think that both bm and bw are not in the best positions they can be in, and that our community is highly dysfunctional and it’s not just bw contributing to the dysfunction. It’s both groups.

Salute to you to be in that 9% that make over 75k, many bw don't make that much, which may indicate why they are not in those circles. They won't get access or come close to getting them but that's not stopping these bw from wanting them. That's the push back, these bw who have a lot going on, think that they deserve one of these top earning bm.

It's out there, and bw have stated that they cannot be with the average bm who makes 42k, but yet their dad made that same amount or less. These bw did not come from 6 figure dads but want bm to have this coming out the gate. Ass backwards.

 

[Wildhundreds]

Breh, you don’t see all the threads being made on here on how to get women; and the first thing almost everyone says is don’t worry about women and get in shape and get money.

Some nikkas get mad when they hear that because it’s repeated so many times. nikkas be like “I don’t wanna hear no more shyt about the gym.”

You made a great point here..

 

[6ixSigma]

Looks like KS is getting a new whip soon, he’s earned it. M8 possibly

 

[Wiseborn]

I’m dead breh, I just busted out laughing at the bolded.

This is literally all that Kevin is saying. bytches that are Mid in either looks, money, education or simply weight call in and try to convince Kevin why they qualify for a high Value Man and get mad when he tells them they don't.

He's not saying that they're gonna die alone because no dude if gonna fukk with them he's saying If they insist on a High Value Man they will die alone.

The issue is that Black women put no value on Black Men that are not deemed (mainly by white people) as "high Value" which is why they're not seen as an option.

 

[Wiseborn]

Salute to you to be in that 9% that make over 75k, many bw don't make that much, which may indicate why they are not in those circles. They won't get access or come close to getting them but that's not stopping these bw from wanting them. That's the push back, these bw who have a lot going on, think that they deserve one of these top earning bm.

It's out there, and bw have stated that they cannot be with the average bm who makes 42k, but yet their dad made that same amount or less. These bw did not come from 6 figure dads but want bm to have this coming out the gate. Ass backwards.

Yes the funny thing is if they're own mothers had the same opinion most of these women wouldn't exist.

Chicks who are High Value in Looks generally don't have these problems unless they have severe attitude problems.

 

[ogc163]

Thought he was going to do a couple of more episodes on class, but given the downside risks of potentially alienating his audience I guess he didn't really want to go in.

Further clarifying class dynamics would help a lot of dudes understand what their ceilings are in regards to marriage and lifestyle.

There are two types of comments that show there is still some level of confusion for folks etched in class, a) comments about Black women wanting thugs b) when people beef with Kevin's numbers regarding the price of an upper-middle-class lifestyle.

In regards to a) Too many dudes resent that the women they are attracted to are not attracted to them, and then they chalk it up to chicks not wanting a square. Certain women have an attraction to their class aesthetics, and they don't place value on a man being of a higher class than they are. Nor or they going to value you primarily for being organized aka "having your shyt together"--whether or not they should is irrelevant to my point--you have to acknowledge that part of the game and move on.

In regards to b) this forum is filled with folks who consistently conflate working class vs upper-middle-class lifestyles/expenses because the catchall term "middle class" is so overused it essentially lost its meaning. I see this with my NYC relatives who think they can easily enter upper-middle-class institutions and social circles because they have government jobs that pay 85k. Social class does not work that way, and you will not gain access just because you make more than the "average".

 

[NO-BadAzz]

I believe it was touched on, bm and bw that never been in a relationships before, having no social skills. You can really see it on dude's show, the awkwardness, the drifting off from the subject. Stick to the question. Face your demons

Relationship skills are not there. 4-6 months is usually the breaking point when asked how long these women been in relationships, those that stay longer, "why are you not married to the guy" then it's a bunch of silence. It's like what are we doing.

 

[jadillac]

It's funny this dude literally says the same talking points and same thing everyday and people still tune in en mass.

I guess he gets new fans every week for every fan he loses or becomes disinterested

 

[NO-BadAzz]

This is literally all that Kevin is saying. bytches that are Mid in either looks, money, education or simply weight call in and try to convince Kevin why they qualify for a high Value Man and get mad when he tells them they don't.

He's not saying that they're gonna die alone because no dude if gonna fukk with them he's saying If they insist on a High Value Man they will die alone.

The issue is that Black women put no value on Black Men that are not deemed (mainly by white people) as "high Value" which is why they're not seen as an option.

It's either they get a HVM or they will eventually settle and that man that they will settle for them will have a hard time getting respect from her.

Will she respect that bm that she's married/kicking with that's making 42k, vs the one that's making 75k or better? Will both men get the same respect from her?