Kevin Samuels Discussion Thread

[SNG]

All this boils down to is unless black men and black women decide to get married by the masses and strong holding two parent homes this shyt will never be solved. 80 percent of children from the black population in America born out of wedlock is crazy high.

 

[NO-BadAzz]

Well yes, bw have a low marriage rate. But here’s the thing, bm also have a low marriage rate lol. And again when bm marry out, the divorce rate is high. So again I don’t see this as a case where only bw are the issue. Bm are not in a better boat—both groups have to change.

Also, I just want to say, I see this focus on hvm as silly asf anyway considering that only a very small percentage of bm are hvm. Most bw will never be with a hvm, even if they want one, because there are so few in our community.

Many times, it’s also a matter of social circles and access. You typically have to already be in those circles to have access to those men. For example, my younger sister went to Harvard for undergrad (which I’ve talked about before on here) and she’s also an AKA. All of her friends are ivy grads just like her. And guess what? They are all married to bm who are also ivy grads. And they didn’t have to try or get advice on how to meet a hvm, he was already a part of her circle. None of the women look remarkable look wise, they’re average looking (but they are thin) and the men are average looking too. like attracts like. It’s not some remarkable formula.

for most people, it’s a matter of understanding your lane. But a lot of people are delusional about what lane that is. Our society has also become extremely shallow and fukked up, and the dating market is just a reflection of that.

BM have a higher marriage rate than bw, also, it is more bw than bm, I believe bw double bm. That's not a good stat for bw. I can understand if we were both equal in population, we are less than bw and have a higher marriage rate.

I agree, but that's what bw want and KS is trying to explain to these women what they need to bring to the table to even get a chance to have a HVM, but they don't want to listen to him, they want to do it their way. (That's actually why they hate him lol). When asked if they could be with an average man, it's not on their radar. Can't be with a black man who makes 42k, but the crazy part is, 91% of black women make less than 75k, I believe 50% maybe more make around 28k.

Crazy

 

[NO-BadAzz]

All this boils down to is unless black men and black women decide to get married by the masses and strong holding two parent homes this shyt will never be solved. 80 percent of children from the black population in America born out of wedlock is crazy high.

I agree, I would also state these women shouldn't be having babies for dudes who can't afford a family. Women should not be having babies if they are not going to allow the father to be in the child's life.

If you decide to have a baby with a guy, try and get married. I respect KS, when he ask these women who have these kids without marriage, why aren't you with the child's father, the fukkery ensues, the lies come out, as he poke around in the story that the women will tell, you can see the goofy shyt and sadness of the whole ordeal.

At times you want to just say, ma'am why are you even a parent, or ma'am why would you lay down with a dude like this lol. It's tough breh

 

[Burned Verses]

Lol

 

[CoCKy GeNiuS]

I've done seen it live and direct up close breh, pretty lady, take pics, flip the bird to the camera, do the Megan Stallion tongue pose to the camera, post all that on the Gram, Snap etc. but be at home in my bed when she would come stay in tears asking me to list some great things about her.
Saying she doesn't have anything to look forward to do in life, can't find her purpose. I mean it's sad.
Unstable and emotional, a whole damage vending machine out here. I just spend my lil time until it's the next breh time.

It's sad breh.
The crazy part is, that it's a lot of women out here that are like this, just gotta like you stated, wait until they come out of character and see it. Just sad

Bingo. Most of em are really just unstable, broken inside, and in need of immediate validation. Once you stall em out right in their face it shifts to her toning it down, staring at u, and wondering what makes u happy. Don't gas these characters up, stall em out right in their face so they know u the one that's not the one.

 

[SNG]

Lol

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

I really wish everyone could see that all people ain’t shyt. This thing where someone says another race is better than this other race is fukkin stupid and does nothing but scream insecurity and low self esteem.

My white boss said this to me once... Started off by mentioning how BLM was dumb... My ears perked up

"it's almost as dumb as the people saying All Lives Matter............. Because none of our fukking lives matter. Nobody gives a fukk about you in life and that's that. Get it for yourself and your family and keep it moving. You gonna stop your life and demand someone else care about it, that's not how humans work.. Humans don't give two fukks about anything unless it affects them"

And he's right.. Only reason we even free as slaves is because it benefited the white racists in the north to do so. Not cause they actually cared about us. Nobody cares about you. Your own people don't actually care

 

[NO-BadAzz]

Bingo. Most of em are really just unstable, broken inside, and in need of immediate validation. Once you stall em out right in their face it shifts to her toning it down, staring at u, and wondering what makes u happy. Don't gas these characters up, stall em out right in their face so they know u the one that's not the one.

Breh, I never really paid any attention, but anybody, check out the music that some of these chicks listen to, mostly hard rap, empty hollow flat love R&B songs, shyt is sad around, the whole playlist that they have is either ratchet shyt or some down and out I'm fading/drowning shyt.

I have yet to find a chick around 25-28 listening to Anita Baker, that kind of music sends energy and signals to your mind and just whole mind-frame, it shapes your outlook on how to treat people, or someone that you want to care for.

I've started for some reason, looking at a chick's playlist and if I don't see any Anita Baker, some ole school shyt such as SWV, etc. man I already know what time it is with this chick.

There's a appreciation thread about Anita Baker, guarantee if you find a chick in that age range playing that, their whole life would be softer, caring, and more soothing

 

[ajnapoleon]

Lol

 

[CarmelBarbie]

BM have a higher marriage rate than bw, also, it is more bw than bm, I believe bw double bm. That's not a good stat for bw. I can understand if we were both equal in population, we are less than bw and have a higher marriage rate.

I agree, but that's what bw want and KS is trying to explain to these women what they need to bring to the table to even get a chance to have a HVM, but they don't want to listen to him, they want to do it their way. (That's actually why they hate him lol). When asked if they could be with an average man, it's not on their radar. Can't be with a black man who makes 42k, but the crazy part is, 91% of black women make less than 75k, I believe 50% maybe more make around 28k.

Crazy

the last time I checked, there’s a higher percentage of bm who have never been married compared to bw:
BLACK MARRIAGE | BlackDemographics.com

where did you get your numbers from? Also in regards to the bolded, men are the gatekeepers to marriage (they do the proposing) so by default doesn’t it make sense that men would have higher numbers since it’s within their control whether they ask a woman to marry or not?

As for your second paragraph, well look most of the women who call in, even if they did everything he said, they would not get a hvm. It just is what it is lol. I only watched a couple of his shows, I didn’t think he was very remarkable either—his advice was very common sense. I didn’t even find him mean or harsh—just blunt. But he’s not very articulate, I’m not convinced that he was a hvm before he did this show either or that he even has a college education—but what I respect is how he’s made none of that matter and figured out how to run the ultimate finesse.

Imo, what would be more interesting is if a 30 something middle class or high value black man, who is presently married to a bw, did a YouTube show but with his wife there too. And if his show not only focused on women but on men too—because as I said, i don’t see our community getting better if both groups aren’t.

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

Girl this is why i can’t take clowns seriously. It’s an obvious ploy. Talking shyt about blk women is the only way some of them can GET attention from them. Which is sad. Oh well. Trying to blow out blk women’s candles ain’t gon make theirs shine any brighter. I don’t take bytch ass neck yappers seriously. They got hours to spend arguing online. bytching about women. Listening to a$$holes. Invest that time into other shyt and themselves and in the process, maybe then they’d find somebody. But nope! They want somebody to rock them to sleep with lullabies to avoid the truth about themselves. The ones they want don’t want them and bytch on the internet won’t change that.

May I ask something, as someone who has never come at you like that about your dating choices....

You never addressed the issue. And I'll give my thoughts first. I believe you can be pro black and date, fukk, marry and have kids with whoever you want. If I found out Malcolm had sex with an Asian woman, he doesn't stop being pro black. Frederick Douglass married a white woman, he's pro black. A million of our soldiers died on these streets... They were mixed, had sex with other races, did drugs, had dark sides.... But they was pro black and did more than most....

What's your take on that? Do think if you let a white man have sex with you, you'd feel less than pro black? Is a black woman pro black with mixed kids?

I'm only asking because you're a rare woman who has dated out and done more than most... I wonder if you consider anything to be disqualifying and what that may be?

 

[Apollo Creed]

I've done seen it live and direct up close breh, pretty lady, take pics, flip the bird to the camera, do the Megan Stallion tongue pose to the camera, post all that on the Gram, Snap etc. but be at home in my bed when she would come stay in tears asking me to list some great things about her.
Saying she doesn't have anything to look forward to do in life, can't find her purpose. I mean it's sad.
Unstable and emotional, a whole damage vending machine out here. I just spend my lil time until it's the next breh time.

It's sad breh.
The crazy part is, that it's a lot of women out here that are like this, just gotta like you stated, wait until they come out of character and see it. Just sad

cant even call it sad, folks getting what they wanted. All you can do is protect your peace

 

[Apollo Creed]

May I ask something, as someone who has never come at you like that about your dating choices....

You never addressed the issue. And I'll give my thoughts first. I believe you can be pro black and date, fukk, marry and have kids with whoever you want. If I found out Malcolm had sex with an Asian woman, he doesn't stop being pro black. Frederick Douglass married a white woman, he's pro black. A million of our soldiers died on these streets... They were mixed, had sex with other races, did drugs, had dark sides.... But they was pro black and did more than most....

What's your take on that? Do think if you let a white man have sex with you, you'd feel less than pro black? Is a black woman pro black with mixed kids?

I'm only asking because you're a rare woman who has dated out and done more than most... I wonder if you consider anything to be disqualifying and what that may be?

lol dont entertain bird brains breh. They don't have the capacity to have logical convo and will just spam you with a bunch of nothing. I mean that in the most disrespectful way possible. We having back and forth about something that at this point there is nothing to debate anymore.

 

[NO-BadAzz]

the last time I checked, there’s a higher percentage of bm who have never been married compared to bw:
BLACK MARRIAGE | BlackDemographics.com

where did you get your numbers from? Also in regards to the bolded, men are the gatekeepers to marriage (they do the proposing) so by default doesn’t it make sense that men would have higher numbers since it’s within their control whether they ask a woman to marry or not?

As for your second paragraph, well look most of the women who call in, even if they did everything he said, they would not get a hvm. It just is what it is lol. I only watched a couple of his shows, I didn’t think he was very remarkable either—his advice was very common sense. I didn’t even find him mean or harsh—just blunt. But he’s not very articulate, I’m actually not convinced that he was a hvm before his platform took off either or that he even has a college education—but what I respect is how he’s made none of that matter and he’s figured out how to run the ultimate finesse.

Imo, what would be more interesting is if a 30 something middle class or high value black man, who is presently married to a bw, did a YouTube show but with his wife there too. And if his show not only focused on women but on men too—because as I said, i don’t see our community getting better if both groups aren’t.

I actually used the same site. With bm being less than bw in population, we are still marrying at a higher rate, bw double bm population maybe more and are marrying less than us.

Men are the gate keepers and if men are not letting women into the room (marrying them), who fault is it? the man or the woman? If we don't want to marry the bw, who do you fix, if the requirement is not met for the man to marry the bw, then a man is not going to marry, the product is fraud, defected, send it back to the lab.

Would you marry or take a defected product if you held the keys that would grant you access to it? Who job it is to correct the defected product or would you go and get ANOTHER one that meets your requirements? I would 100% say that it's the woman's job to correct its issues.

If you add the widow, divorcee altogether with the bw that's never been married, it surpasses the men's numbers, including widow, divorcees, and never been married

 

[Thurgood Thurston III]

where did you get your numbers from? Also in regards to the bolded, men are the gatekeepers to marriage (they do the proposing) so by default doesn’t it make sense that men would have higher numbers since it’s within their control whether they ask a woman to marry or not?

Well, you can also look at this way

Normally, before a man would propose to a woman, he'd have been in a relationship with her first right?

Before he'd get into a relationship with her, they'd have gone on a date first.

In order to go on that date, they'd have to exchange numbers.

But most women aren't just giving their numbers out to just any man are they? Or they're at least not answering just any man's text.

Women, from the beginning, are the choosers. They don't want a proposal from any random man. They want a proposal from the man they chose out of the hundreds who shot their shot. And that is okay.

However, I cannot (seriously) propose to you unless I got your number first. But when I said "Good morning" you told me "No thank you" while looking down at your phone.