GhostoftheMan
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nikkas probably gonna lose jobs for this
My bad. Thought it passed but they pulled back on itCould you specify this legislation or point me in the direction where I can learn more about this legislation that will thwart athlete protests?
They gave in
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The problem with trying to make arguments for affirmative consent is you're going against how people have been socialized since birth. Telling somoene to stop and ask for a yes for every sexual act seems insane to many. It's not even necessarily people who are proponents of sexual assault, it just sounds to them like you're trying to legislate bedroom interactions. What you don't add to your "what we are taught as men" spiel is that most women are also taught not to ask for it and wait for men to make the first move. Those are the gender roles. I think you, and many progressives go about a lot of these issues the wrong way. It comes down as just condemning men (many of them well-meaning) as opposed to trying to address a problem and understanding the perspectives of both well-meaning parties. Right or wrong, the natural instinct is for people to get defensive. You cannot just beat people into submission. These laws exist right now and almost no one is following them. They probably won't be consistently followed for another four of 5 years when you get a generation of people raised on them and advised on them in sex ed. like how people were advised against smoking when we were kids. We grew up knowing it was wrong.when the participant says "lets have sex,"its called consent.
The problem with what you quoted, and what we as men are taught (and its mostly men), is that we don't ask for it. We wait for it to "appear" to be good instead of getting confirmation.
Again, I dont know if she consented or not (I also dont know if she consented to being recorded or not), but it is important for us not to wait for things to "appear" to be okay and instead having the participants say its okay.
this shyt would have all been handled if he would have shown the video hell even a snippet.thats not true.She was on camera consensually agreeing to have a train ran on her.
of course.The problem with trying to make arguments for affirmative consent is you're going against how people have been socialized since birth. Telling somoene to stop and ask for a yes for every sexual act seems insane to many. It's not even necessarily people who are proponents of sexual assault, it just sounds to them like you're trying to legislate bedroom interactions. What you don't add to your "what we are taught as men" spiel is that most women are also taught not to ask for it and wait for men to make the first move. Those are the gender roles. I think you, and many progressives go about a lot of these issues the wrong way. It comes down as just condemning men (many of them well-meaning) as opposed to trying to address a problem and understanding the perspectives of both well-meaning parties. Right or wrong, the natural instinct is for people to get defensive. You cannot just beat people into submission. These laws exist right now and almost no one is following them. They probably won't be consistently followed for another four of 5 years when you get a generation of people raised on them and advised on them in sex ed. like how people were advised against smoking when we were kids. We grew up knowing it was wrong.
tell that to the many more women who were assaulted but are afraid to goto the authorities.The reason why we come of the way we do regarding to girl is because we live in a society that absolves women of ALL accountability and responsibility
Its actually fukking disgusting but the Coli supports rape culture so no surprise they see this as a Civil Rights issue.

if you use the term "rape culture" i already know I'm dealing with a brainwashed sjw. enjoy that glass of crazy![]()


Yeah, there are no easy answers.thats not true.
"appears to be" is not the same as "she agreed"
of course.
Thats why these women talk about rape culture. Your post explains it.
tell that to the many more women who were assaulted but are afraid to goto the authorities.
Use a conservative pejorative and claim someone is brainwashed brehs..![]()


Brehs are white nationalists faking that they pro black.Use a conservative pejorative and claim someone is brainwashed brehs..![]()
Who cares if she consented to the video? Was it sexual assault? That's the charge, correct? If the charge was illegal recording or whatever then we have a discussionQuestions. Did she consent to being recorded? Did she consent to it being shown in public?
I really don't know the answer, does anyone know?
If the answers are yes I understand the protest. If not, what are the players thinking!
*Edit*. didn't realize they're suspending random dudes that weren't there. I get it now. They need to be more specific in what they're protesting though.