NBPA Will Seek Lower Age Limit

[FTBS]

I never said or implied that PER is the be all, end all I just used that as a point that Davis is having an all-time great season statistically.

I think Davis overall has better numbers than Shaq did his rookie year. With Shaq the difference is that his poor FT shooting, and his sky high rate of turnovers & fouls is what brings his overall efficiency down.

Kareem & Wilt played in completely different eras, and you also neglect to mention that Kareem played 43 minutes a game and Wilt played 46 while Davis plays just 35.

Did I ever deny Davis' season was great? That was actually part of my point. He's having this great season in his third year and other guys were putting up comparable season fresh out the gate. We can debate which is better but there is no debate that they are all in the same ball park. The issue is the same can't be said for Davis' rookie year or the rookie years of ANY of the HS or one and done players.

You realize it's actually a testament to their greatness that they were able to play those many minutes at that pace right? Endurance and durability are positive traits as well. Davis can't stay healthy as is, you think he'd fare better with 7-10 more minutes a night?

 

[ghostwriterx]

What Bron did as a rookie was the aberration. KD's frail ass no doubt would've had struggles fresh out of HS. Physical maturity was pretty much the only thing holding him up early on. Only difference is guys coming after after 2 or more years vs. guys coming right out of HS or one year of college.

You really think KD matured psychically in his one year of college?

 

[23Barrettcity]

As long as the public doesn't pick sides in the millionaires vs billionaires fight it won't even be a issue this time

Wait for all the skip , I know Gary kohlman personally and he's a good dude don't get me wrong . I often eat lunch with him and cp3 but this is ridiculous , young black man need to go to college !! They need they year of experiencing life outside of their limited narrow views they experience in their neighborhoods. Adam silver is right to help these young men experience life in college and prepare for life after high school

 

[NYC Rebel]

Wait for all the skip , I know Gary kohlman personally and he's a good dude don't get me wrong . I often eat lunch with him and cp3 but this is ridiculous , young black man need to go to college !! They need they year of experiencing life outside of their limited narrow views they experience in their neighborhoods. Adam silver is right to help these young men experience life in college and prepare for life after high school

College life for a major athlete does not prepare them for shyt.

 

[FTBS]

You really think KD matured psychically in his one year of college?

More than he would have had he gone straight to the the league. Notice how I said that maturity was still an issue after that year of college when he was in the league.

 

[NYC Rebel]

More than he would have had he gone straight to the the league.

"More"? In what way? College basketball facilities are on par that of the NBA now?

 

[SchoolboyC]

Did I ever deny Davis' season was great? That was actually part of my point. He's having this great season in his third year and other guys were putting up comparable season fresh out the gate. We can debate which is better but there is no debate that they are all in the same ball park. The issue is the same can't be said for Davis' rookie year or the rookie years of ANY of the HS or one and done players.

You realize it's actually a testament to their greatness that they were able to play those many minutes at that pace right? Endurance and durability are positive traits as well. Davis can't stay healthy as is, you think he'd fare better with 7-10 more minutes a night?

Eh, personally I don't really mind that they're not stars right out of the gate because I don't expect them to be. Never have and never will. And that goes for players who are directly out of HS and those that spent 4 years out of college, I expect that there will always be a transitional period. And the players that were able to directly play at a high level like has been said over and over in this thread are such a small minority throughout the 70 year or so history of the league.

Oh no doubt it's a testament to their greatness that they were able to play those type of minutes on a nightly basis. It's not a bad thing that they were playing that many minutes but when looking at stats a player that's playing 10 or so more minutes should have better the raw numbers was my point for the most part.

 

[FTBS]

"More"? In what way? College basketball facilities are on par that of the NBA now?

In that he got older. College facilities are certainly better than the high school facilities which he would have been jumping from otherwise.

 

[NYC Rebel]

In that he got older. College facilities are certainly better than the high school facilities which he would have been jumping from otherwise.

does he suddenly sleep in a hyperbolic chamber or get frozen like Han Solo if he jumped straight into the NBA? Our point here is college vs pros. He'd mature physically the same way. The NBA won't pervert his physical maturity! LOL

 

[FTBS]

Eh, personally I don't really mind that they're not stars right out of the gate because I don't expect them to be. Never have and never will. And that goes for players who are directly out of HS and those that spent 4 years out of college, I expect that there will always be a transitional period. And the players that were able to directly play at a high level like has been said over and over in this thread are such a small minority throughout the 70 year or so history of the league.

Oh no doubt it's a testament to their greatness that they were able to play those type of minutes on a nightly basis. It's not a bad thing that they were playing that many minutes but when looking at stats a player that's playing 10 or so more minutes should have better the raw numbers was my point for the most part.

Can't debate preference but the bolded is just intellectually dishonest.

 

[SchoolboyC]

Can't debate preference but the bolded is just intellectually dishonest.

They are a small minority, now matter how you put it

 

[FTBS]

does he suddenly sleep in a hyperbolic chamber or get frozen like Han Solo if he jumped straight into the NBA? Our point here is college vs pros. He'd mature physically the same way. The NBA won't pervert his maturity! LOL

How would he mature the same way if he doesn't have the time to do so? No matter what you are doing and where you are doing it at, you are gonna be more physically mature at 19 than at 18. Thusly, entering the league at 19 you are gonna be more mature than you would have been at 18. You are arguing against things that aren't being said.

Me: KD was more physically mature entering the league at 19 than he would've been at 18.
You: NBA won't pervert maturity.

 

[FTBS]

They are a small minority, now matter how you put it

Great players fared better from the jump when they came in at 20-22 than they did when they came in at 18-19 no matter how you put it .

 

[SchoolboyC]

Great players fared better from the jump when they came in at 20-22 than they did when they came in at 18-19 no matter how you put it .

But if they were still great at the same age then what difference does it make?

 

[FTBS]

But if they were still great at the same age then what difference does it make?

So we go from "those players are in the minority" to "okay but what difference does it make"? The difference is that the product is inferior in the meantime until they get to that point. Now tell me what difference it makes for YOU if guys wait a year or two more to enter the league?