NBPA Will Seek Lower Age Limit

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

You act as if capitalism is a one way street. Just like adults have the right to seek employment, companies have the right to set prerequisites for employment. There are plenty of jobs you can get at 18 and fresh out of HS...NBA player just ain't one of them much like doctor, lawyer, engineer, executive, pro coach or the variety of other jobs that have prereqs and nobody bats an eye.

Obviously its not a one way street but the pre-requisites have to also be lawful..what they are doing now isnt illegal, especially due to CBA..but the pre-reqs for many jobs mean that the people dont get hired, not that they cant throw their application towards the job anyway. No one would be forcing any teams to "hire" any of these players.

 

[SchoolboyC]

Right because the league is suffering so much with 2 of those 3 out right? Last season was so wack without any of them right? Don't know how I ever enjoyed the game before those 3 came along . If the paradigm had never shifted you wouldn't even miss them. Everybody wants to talk about what a player should be allowed to do and what is fair to them but nobody wants to talk about expectations for that player. If your argument is about what you will eventually become then you have no argument right now. I personally am not trying to watch your growing pains and ups and downs and baby sitting (part of the reason I don't really fukk with college like that) but that's just me .

And personally I'd much rather watch Andrew Wiggins, Joel Embiid, Jabari Parker, Anthony Davis, Rudy Gobert, Andre Drummond, Giannis Antetokounmpo, etc. develop than have shytty veterans that would be in the league in their place like Jordan Crawford, Earl Clark, Marshon Brooks, Terrence Williams, Hilton Armstrong & Jeremy Tyler but that's just me

 

[23Barrettcity]

What if the teams all come together and say they don't want the young players?

Then don't draft them . You don't need a rule to stop it though age discrimination is against the rules , jobs can say you need certain experience to perform a job but you can still apply and just not get hired

 

[FTBS]

Obviously its not a one way street but the pre-requisites have to also be lawful..what they are doing now isnt illegal, especially due to CBA..but the pre-reqs for many jobs mean that the people dont get hired, not that they cant throw their application towards the job anyway. No one would be forcing any teams to "hire" any of these players.

Pre-reqs mean you aren't eligible for employment if you don't meet them. How is it not legal when it was collectively bargained? The young players biggest enemy (much like the superstars) is the rank and file old nikkas. No one if forcing players to play in the NBA or to even play basketball period.

 

[FTBS]

And personally I'd much rather watch Andrew Wiggins, Joel Embiid, Jabari Parker, Anthony Davis, Rudy Gobert, Andre Drummond, Giannis Antetokounmpo, etc. develop than have shytty veterans that would be in the league in their place like Jordan Crawford, Earl Clark, Marshon Brooks, Terrence Williams, Hilton Armstrong & Jeremy Tyler but that's just me

Well seeing as how we can't go back and time and see how the league would look if things had never changed .

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

Pre-reqs mean you aren't eligible for employment if you don't meet them. How is it not legal when it was collectively bargained? The young players biggest enemy (much like the superstars) is the rank and file old nikkas. No one if forcing players to play in the NBA or to even play basketball period.

reading comp. i said it wasnt illegal and also noted the CBA.

pre-reqs do not mean ineligibility in most cases. any employer can say "employee x is required to have a,b,c to be considered"...that doesnt mean if employee x doesnt have one or more of a, b and c cannot apply anyway and see what happens.

 

[Greenstrings]

What if the teams all come together and say they don't want the young players?

You really think teams would gamble on missing out on talent just to make a specious point?

 

[Eye Cue DA COLI GAWD]

I certainly hope they aren't making this their top issue when you have individual players salaries capped and steadily shrinking long term deals out there. Funny how there was no mention of football...the biggest sport in the country that forces guys to stay for 3 years. They need to stop with the race angle and comparison to sports with true minor league systems. nikkas fukked it up for themselves when everybody and their mama came straight from HS and the overwhelming majority weren't ready out the gate. Even with the one and done you don't see cats having the immediate impact that guys like Mike and Shaq and Bird and Magic and Wilt and Russell and pretty much every ATG born before 1975 had.

All that said it's amazing to me how the most obvious compromise hasn't been mentioned yet. Instead of having an age limit, you let nikkas in at 18 but you reward cats that wait. Just have a sliding scale that allows guys to either get paid more out the gate or get to FA faster based on how many years they wait. For example, an 18 year old fresh out of HS could get a 5 year deal worth $25 mil while a 22 year old could get a 5 year deal worth $50 mil or you can just have the 22 year old only need to play a year or two before reaching UFA while the 18 year old would have to go through RFA.

 

[FTBS]

Then don't draft them . You don't need a rule to stop it though age discrimination is against the rules , jobs can say you need certain experience to perform a job but you can still apply and just not get hired

Jobs can say whatever they want as long as the shyt is collectively bargained and no laws are being broken. If players agree to it then .

reading comp. i said it wasnt illegal and also noted the CBA.

pre-reqs do not mean ineligibility in most cases. any employer can say "employee x is required to have a,b,c to be considered"...that doesnt mean if employee x doesnt have one or more of a, b and c cannot apply anyway and see what happens.

My bad I did read that wrong. What is there really to say if you are acknowledging the legality and the fact that it was collectively bargained? Walk into a law firm trying to be an attorney without so much as a college degree and no connections and see how eligible you are . Got to a Hollywood studio talking about I wanna audition for the lead in the next Avengers and see how you are allowed to apply.

 

[Greenstrings]

It raised their profiles significantly.

It didn't.
Not in any way that actually matters.

These guys had to show and prove in the league to earn their money.

The idea that college helped with that is dumb. Lillard has some of the biggest endorsements and nobody gave a fukk about him in college.

 

[FTBS]

You really think teams would gamble on missing out on talent just to make a specious point?

The age limit is the teams all saying that don't want younger players.

 

[Regular_P]

It didn't.
Not in any way that actually matters.

These guys had to show and prove in the league to earn their money.

The idea that college helped with that is dumb. Lillard has some of the biggest endorsements and nobody gave a fukk about him in college.

Stop it.

All those guys raised their profiles in college and got more endorsements because of it out of the gate. Obviously, you can't play like trash in the league and hold onto endorsements, but those guys were on national TV on a regular basis in college, something most of them didn't get the opportunity to do their first year in the league. That weekly exposure helped them greatly.

Notice I didn't mention Lillard. He went to Weber St. The rest of those guys went to big time programs.

 

[The War Report]

Do it like in baseball. If you opt to stay in college you go for 2+ years and if you don't you can go straight to the NBA.

 

[23Barrettcity]

Obviously its not a one way street but the pre-requisites have to also be lawful..what they are doing now isnt illegal, especially due to CBA..but the pre-reqs for many jobs mean that the people dont get hired, not that they cant throw their application towards the job anyway. No one would be forcing any teams to "hire" any of these players.

Exactly , thats why the rule is stupid . The other reason there is a a rule is because management doesn't want to be forced to make hard decisions like should I draft this high school Kid or this college Grad

 

[23Barrettcity]

You really think teams would gamble on missing out on talent just to make a specious point?

Plus I think that's illegal to do