New NBA Media Deal: 11 years, $77B with Disney (ABC/ESPN), Comcast (NBC/Peacock), and Amazon. ESPN to license Inside the NBA

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NBC would still put on Kentucky Derby, PBC boxing, Notre Dame football, and other events in prime time when they had them, with NBCSN. CBS only puts niche sports like racing or mlb on their sport networks, same with Fox and FS1. they need eyes on broadcast networks.
and none of that is during the week for the most part.

NBA games are. The weekend stuff, ABC didn't do til basically NFL season was over, but even during the season Saturday was college football all day.
 

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and none of that is during the week for the most part.

NBA games are. The weekend stuff, ABC didn't do til basically NFL season was over, but even during the season Saturday was college football all day.
Well those events only happen during the weekend. That said NBC has wanted the during the week stuff. Its cheaper and more profitable that scripted programing.
 

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Well those events only happen during the weekend. That said NBC has wanted the during the week stuff. Its cheaper and more profitable that scripted programing.
the real ad dollars come with scripted programming. The shows that bring in the awards and ad dollars weren't going anywhere and NBC wanted back in, so that's the price they paid, which is why we'll get games on Tuesday and not Wednesday or Thursday.
 

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the real ad dollars come with scripted programming. The shows that bring in the awards and ad dollars weren't going anywhere and NBC wanted back in, so that's the price they paid, which is why we'll get games on Tuesday and not Wednesday or Thursday.
Nah you have it wrong.
Live programing gets more viewers and higher ad rates than scripted programming.
Reality tv is generally cheaper to produce and more profitable than scripted programming.
Scripted programming provides the lowest margins of all programing.

Awards are entirely prestige only, not business critical.

NBC initially didn't have the money. After omcast purchased them, they now are a war chest that they can spend on properties against the other big guys. So now they can afford to get back in.
 

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Nah you have it wrong.
Live programing gets more viewers and higher ad rates than scripted programming.
Reality tv is generally cheaper to produce and more profitable than scripted programming.
Scripted programming provides the lowest margins of all programing.

Awards are entirely prestige only, not business critical.

NBC initially didn't have the money. After omcast purchased them, they now are a war chest that they can spend on properties against the other big guys. So now they can afford to get back in.
without the prestige, you're pretty much FOX.


if you have scripted programming that's successful, that can carry you. It's why CBS doesn't add more to its sports portfolio. It's why they can air Georgie and Mandy's First Marriage and Ghosts against Thursday Night Football and sleep comfortably. With those shows you get the best ads.

NBC got a windfall of cash but they also started taking a beating with their ratings
 

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without the prestige, you're pretty much FOX.


if you have scripted programming that's successful, that can carry you. It's why CBS doesn't add more to its sports portfolio. It's why they can air Georgie and Mandy's First Marriage and Ghosts against Thursday Night Football and sleep comfortably. With those shows you get the best ads.

NBC got a windfall of cash but they also started taking a beating with their ratings
Prestige doesn't matter money does
Fox has more money at it's disposal than any of the big player thanks to Disney. They have one of the few successful streamers with Tubi using the same tried and true formula, getting blacks to watch.

CBS and paramount are cash strapped and looking to sell their movie studies and certain assets to keep the SEC from breaking them up, as the approval for paramount and CBS to merge was predicated on the stock keeping a certain price that they are struggling with. They also had failure with showtime streaming and paramount is being one of the lowest customer platforms. If they could get more NFL they would if they could get more basketball they would but they are largely out priced in their current iteration.

The only broadcasters with money are NBC and Fox.

Lol, when Thursday broadcast was in play, NBC aired Thursday night football that became a time slot for dead shows, when Amazon took it all the networks have a clean slate to go after each other and they do, they compete. If Amazon could sell the simulcast rights they would. They are trying to do so, but the NFL is blocking them, same with Netflix. They would like to offset the cost of the games they carry by selling simulcast to broadcast networks.
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You have a very poor understanding of how the economics of broadcasting works.

NBC didn't get a windfall of cash when they had Thursday night that game cost a lot to get from the NFL. NFL games are the most prized products everyone can get in the us space, they instantly pull in millions of viewers. Sec football and the big ten are the runners up and then it's hit and miss after that that's why sports rights are so expensive. So largely they make a small profit in getting them. Turner/discovery time Warner found that they weren't making the money they spent on NBA back which is why they let it go and transitioned to college football and doubling down on the NCAA tourny rights.
 

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Prestige doesn't matter money does
Fox has more money at it's disposal than any of the big player thanks to Disney. They have one of the few successful streamers with Tubi using the same tried and true formula, getting blacks to watch.

CBS and paramount are cash strapped and looking to sell their movie studies and certain assets to keep the SEC from breaking them up, as the approval for paramount and CBS to merge was predicated on the stock keeping a certain price that they are struggling with. They also had failure with showtime streaming and paramount is being one of the lowest customer platforms. If they could get more NFL they would if they could get more basketball they would but they are largely out priced in their current iteration.

The only broadcasters with money are NBC and Fox.

Lol, when Thursday broadcast was in play, NBC aired Thursday night football that became a time slot for dead shows, when Amazon took it all the networks have a clean slate to go after each other and they do, they compete. If Amazon could sell the simulcast rights they would. They are trying to do so, but the NFL is blocking them, same with Netflix. They would like to offset the cost of the games they carry by selling simulcast to broadcast networks.
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You have a very poor understanding of how the economics of broadcasting works.

NBC didn't get a windfall of cash when they had Thursday night that game cost a lot to get from the NFL. NFL games are the most prized products everyone can get in the us space, they instantly pull in millions of viewers. Sec football and the big ten are the runners up and then it's hit and miss after that that's why sports rights are so expensive. So largely they make a small profit in getting them. Turner/discovery time Warner found that they weren't making the money they spent on NBA back which is why they let it go and transitioned to college football and doubling down on the NCAA tourny rights.
Fox thought 9-1-1 was too expensive to produce. They had an IP that worked and gave it up over money. Whatever they saved didn't go into anything because there's less reason to tune into the network. Fox now is what NBC was for a while, where sports IS holding them up at this point because they otherwise don't have much else to offer. They barely even try to make new programming because nothing sticks. They air sports on Fridays because they lost Smackdown and have nothing else to air. For all the money they have, CBS will always be ahead of Fox, because even the good stuff Fox has, CBS has and more. For all of NBC's money, they needed to add the NBA because unless you love you some Premier League Soccer, Peacock as a subscription only offers but so much. It's obviously deeper than just the networks cuz they have bigger backing behind them, but CBS stays ahead of these other networks and it's not just because of sports.


As for Amazon, I'm not gonna get into the streaming stuff mainly because most of those services take a beating, but Amazon jumped out the window to pay for TNF rights. On one hand it established a footprint for them with sports which they needed but it's expensive. I don't wanna compare Amazon to TV networks because you could pay for Prime and never use Prime Video. TNF or the NBA or anything really gets in the way of what you're tryna consume. With networks, there's only but so much time to fill and you don't want one successful thing impacting the other.. Again, I'm just talking about the network channel. I clearly get why sports is in demand and why networks pay for it, but they're not gonna revolve their entire structure around it either because not everybody's into it.
 

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Zaslov's not surviving this shyt and that's pretty much the writing on the wall. Not that he ever likely was because the one brought in to restructure is hardly ever also a long term fixture, but it's hard to see "TNT Sports" being anything but a slogan. They secured rights to a couple tennis matches and other things but it feels like it's in sports in the same way that ESPN Ocho is the worldwide leader of sports. While not just losing the NBA, but publicly saying we don't need it and are happy not having it. Launch a sports proponent of the network and lose the 2nd highest viewed sports league in NA brehs. TNT Sports is dead in America and they know it which is why there isn't even a TNT Sports webpage for the US, closest matches are TNT Sports UK and the TNT Sports US Wikipedia page lol

Meanwhile, giving half a billion to properties like an AEW that's lost half it's viewers over the course of it being on the network. Nobody else thought that was funny, that he was shytting on basketball while investing half a billion on 1. wrestling and 2. wrestling programming that gets its highest views at the start of the show when people are reaching to turn the channel and when the show overruns when people are trying to see what's supposed to come on after it.

Or again, buying up rights to things that won't make people give a fukk while same time trying to justify the contracts of the Inside The NBA crew because you don't want a release. Well then we'll just have them crack jokes about dodgeball, cornhole type of shyts it'll be like nothing's different :smugbiden:

He's dead in the water and knew it before this. Just another footnote, faceless executive in a long line of fukk ups especially out of that company
 

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Fox thought 9-1-1 was too expensive to produce. They had an IP that worked and gave it up over money. Whatever they saved didn't go into anything because there's less reason to tune into the network. Fox now is what NBC was for a while, where sports IS holding them up at this point because they otherwise don't have much else to offer. They barely even try to make new programming because nothing sticks. They air sports on Fridays because they lost Smackdown and have nothing else to air. For all the money they have, CBS will always be ahead of Fox, because even the good stuff Fox has, CBS has and more. For all of NBC's money, they needed to add the NBA because unless you love you some Premier League Soccer, Peacock as a subscription only offers but so much. It's obviously deeper than just the networks cuz they have bigger backing behind them, but CBS stays ahead of these other networks and it's not just because of sports.


As for Amazon, I'm not gonna get into the streaming stuff mainly because most of those services take a beating, but Amazon jumped out the window to pay for TNF rights. On one hand it established a footprint for them with sports which they needed but it's expensive. I don't wanna compare Amazon to TV networks because you could pay for Prime and never use Prime Video. TNF or the NBA or anything really gets in the way of what you're tryna consume. With networks, there's only but so much time to fill and you don't want one successful thing impacting the other.. Again, I'm just talking about the network channel. I clearly get why sports is in demand and why networks pay for it, but they're not gonna revolve their entire structure around it either because not everybody's into it.
Lol fox cancelled 911 because it no longer owns it's studios remember? There is no benefit to it for fox broadcastnit Disney gets the money from the show not them.

This also confirms the point I made earlier that shows scripted shows cost more and make less money for a network than reality and sports.

Fox relies on its animation block which they are quick to cancel and reality shows and sports.

NBC got bought out by Comcast this is what allowed them to compete and get NBA rights that and turner bowing out.

CBS isn't ahead of fox in revenue and that's the only thing that matters.

The broadcast networks literally are changing everything. They do to revolve around live sports and reality shows
 

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iWho is their NBA team?


NBA is shortsighted, the NFL makes them compete against each other and keeps their shyt on broadcast.
Took what 30 years for the NBA to figure out that taking their product largely off broadcast tv would hurt their ability to bring in new viewers.

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