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New York Rappers Get Catapulted Into Greatness With The Smallest Sample Size
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iNad925
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FruitOfTheVale
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New York sold New York out, you got it fukked up. E-40 was distributed the same reason all hip hop artists were distributed, the only difference was he had already proven his own marketability before he was picked up.
And all of that is entirely irrespective of him as an artist. E-40 is a lyricist, what lopsided scale are you using where he isn't one? In A Major Way is one of the greatest hip hop records to come out of any coast period. You sound like a hater
Blah...
Y'all too mechanical about this shyt. Quality over quantity. Most of the artists you named were dominant in their eras... whether or not they were able to dominate in later eras makes not a difference in the world as to whether or not they're legendary. There's nikkas who got 15 albums and still have not done in hip-hop what a Rakim or Kane has... it's just that simple. They didn't innovate on that level, they didn't inspire the game the way they did... it is what it is. It's rewriting history to suggest that these people are less deserving of legend status, even though it's well documented that they did legendary shyt.
Y'all too mechanical about this shyt. Quality over quantity. Most of the artists you named were dominant in their eras... whether or not they were able to dominate in later eras makes not a difference in the world as to whether or not they're legendary. There's nikkas who got 15 albums and still have not done in hip-hop what a Rakim or Kane has... it's just that simple. They didn't innovate on that level, they didn't inspire the game the way they did... it is what it is. It's rewriting history to suggest that these people are less deserving of legend status, even though it's well documented that they did legendary shyt.
pointproven214
i speak facts not emotions
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NYC Warrior
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pointproven214
i speak facts not emotions
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The thing is how of those listed is REALLY high on people's GOAT lists?
Biggie
Kane usually depending the breh's age
Slick Rick?
I don't hear people putting GZA, Pun, Lauryn or Big L in their top 5.
Biggie
Kane usually depending the breh's age
Slick Rick?
I don't hear people putting GZA, Pun, Lauryn or Big L in their top 5.
Big Pun>>>
I disagree about LL
Young/Nacho\Drawz
...come on let's picture the possibility...
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Everything is about Biggie to you. Fact of the matter is lots of artist dropped two great record
Many of the labels from the South/West were indie and they simply couldn't compete with the majors in terms of marketing and promotion and ultimately perception. The same way Biggie has been promoted as one of the greatest of all time. NO ONE was saying that when he was alive. Alot of marketing dollars have gone into building up that perception. Alot of this has to do with the timing as well. The genre started in the East and they were doing it first. Alot of artist are getting props simply by being first since they were exposed to it first. I'm not trying to take away from them but I feel like some artist get too much props simply by being at the right place at the right time if you will. If the genre originated on the West then their would be some innovate artist who broke the mold and he would be Rakim.
Overall you would have to be in denial if you don't acknowledge the ongoing East Coast bias in Hip Hop. It is well documented. I suggest that you and others go check out the recent Luke Skywalker interviews or go pick up his book and check out first hand how Southern/Western artist have been treated by the game. It seems like it took Scarface coming to the East Coast for him to get the props he should have been received.
I've looked at this on a deeper level and peeped how the majority of the East Coast artist are of Caribbean descent as well. I won't go to in depth with that but I will just leave that there as food for thought for those reading who catch my drift.
Everything is about Biggie to you. Fact of the matter is lots of artist dropped two great record
Not true at all. Alot of this discussion has to do with the east coast artist having more visibility than the west and south. It goes back to what I said before about the industry and media. Look at how Def Jam was about to gain control of Hot 97 using Payola to promote their predominately East Coast roster and push them to a higher level. If Jay wasn't on Def Jam, do you think he would have all of those consecutive number one records? There was obviously a formula that they used which was evident by the sudden drop from the top the second week.
Many of the labels from the South/West were indie and they simply couldn't compete with the majors in terms of marketing and promotion and ultimately perception. The same way Biggie has been promoted as one of the greatest of all time. NO ONE was saying that when he was alive. Alot of marketing dollars have gone into building up that perception. Alot of this has to do with the timing as well. The genre started in the East and they were doing it first. Alot of artist are getting props simply by being first since they were exposed to it first. I'm not trying to take away from them but I feel like some artist get too much props simply by being at the right place at the right time if you will. If the genre originated on the West then their would be some innovate artist who broke the mold and he would be Rakim.
Overall you would have to be in denial if you don't acknowledge the ongoing East Coast bias in Hip Hop. It is well documented. I suggest that you and others go check out the recent Luke Skywalker interviews or go pick up his book and check out first hand how Southern/Western artist have been treated by the game. It seems like it took Scarface coming to the East Coast for him to get the props he should have been received.
I've looked at this on a deeper level and peeped how the majority of the East Coast artist are of Caribbean descent as well. I won't go to in depth with that but I will just leave that there as food for thought for those reading who catch my drift.
Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
They have e40 stans.
So, explain why he was offbeat, offkey and lacked any actual rhyme composition skills, or rubrick.
When none of that shyt makes sense to actual music or emcee'.
Plus, those particulars and lack of skill.
are always associated with a wack emcee.
So, please explain e40's technical base to us,...
The thing is you can't because he has no actual real skill or rubrick as an emcee.
it is up for debate why when he came out.
there was a fluctuation of skills in his later releases to the hyphy movement as well.
Which entails gw,...so unless we giving being:
Offbeat
Offkey
No actual rhyme composition skill or rubrick
Alleged and ghostwriting claims
All a pass plus the ghostwriting claims.
Where and how when the Mecca is brought up is e40 supposed to get this acclaim.
When this is hiphop and not about the sales but your actual skills.
Like let's be real,....
Since e40 did not work on his skills.
Yeah, he threatened big physically.
which is what a toy would do to a emcee.
When, a toy knows his skill set was criticized by a better emcee and is trying to get brownee points to look a certain way battling.
Yet, and still you still get ripped and in the books nikkaz note the real.
So, please stop the homer shyt.
You don't see me waving pom poms for no common, no ye, or fest or none of these guys just because they are from Chicago.
this whole rant and deflection is all because you have Mecca envy.
All sellouts have Mecca envy because they lack what being connected to the culture and Mecca is all about.
How you a rapper critical of the skilled culturally based emcees in the birthplace and mecca of your culture.
Then try to prop an even worse submission or individual.
who is a cultural scourge of the worse and lowest common denominator.
Then, try to associate cultural scourges in the Mecca like the culture is accepting.
When the culture, is not even accepting.
Then, diss the Mecca.
You, can't be hip hop if you do that,....you can't.
Art Barr
Y'all toys suffer from Mecca envy and only a toy has Mecca envy.
A toy is not about or part of hip hop.
I don't care how many fake mics they think they rip.
What gear they wear.
If, yousa toy.
it will start to show and it is only so long fake thugs can pretend.
Art Barr