New York Rappers Get Catapulted Into Greatness With The Smallest Sample Size
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The Devil's Advocate
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this is not only disgraceful as fukk.... but stupid as fukk too
people rate them as great ARTISTS or RAPPERS
a classic album and the number of them you have, doesn't mean shyt if you are being rated on SKILL
dan marino is one of the greatest of all time.... he has no rings and 1-2 super bowls... but his skill is fukking off the charts
so no.... all these rappers didn't have smash after smash... or classic after classic....
but if you gave them the mic... and said rap right now.... and put them up against others in their era.... they'd be at the top of these lists
you can be great for different things... you can be a great pass rusher... or a great blocking back.... etc etc... most of these dudes you named, aren't top of any all time list, except biggie... who dropped about 4 albums worth of material... 2 albums.. 1 junior mafia.. wrote kim whole album.. plus features and remixes and guest spots
everyone else would be a great song writer (slick, lauryn, big) or a great lyricist (gza, pun, l, mos, jada, kane, big)
so no... longevity and album making isn't really highly regarded in hip hop.... can you fukking rap, yes or no
FeloniousMonk
Dont mind me..Im a azzhole
Cuz those arists you mentioned are true mc's and thier proficency at the time trancends just being recording artist.
The hate for the mecca of Hip Hop is scust. I bet it's some xxxxl fubu jeans that drag on the floor with tall tee and dusty neck dookie braids country bumpkin nikka who made this thread 
These are all rappers who have/had impeccable and undeniable talent. That's why they're praised so highly even though they have sparse discographies. If you can name rappers from the south or west with large "sample sizes" who you feel don't receive proper praise and can spit on the level of a Biggie, Pun, Jada, or L or have the impact and influence as a Lauryn Hill, Slick Rick, or Kane, or just be flatout talented and versatile on the mic like a Mos Def or GZA, then this thread would have validity.
receipts orReminds me ofwhen NY posters would constantly make anti-westcoast threads and then turn around talking about how classic 'Pop Champagne' was. Ron Brownz...he produced for Big L!!!!
What goes around, comes around.
These nikkas don't know anything about nynikkas don't wear nike boots. And we definitely don't say Jawn. Get out of here with that shyt.
I'm a Harlem nikka. We been wearing bright cloths since the beginning of time
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I kinda see what OP is saying.
It's always been like this.
A lot of the East Coast/West Coast drama that happened happened because East Coast outfits like The Source and BET would put anybody from New York over anybody else damn near, even when the West Coast was whooping everybody's ass, they were still hyping up New York all over the place.
Now, there are times like Nas or Biggie they were right, but more often than not, it's some bum ass subway nikka that they hype up and gets an Unsigned Hype piece and ends up being a corny punchline rapper.
Diddy? 50?
It isn't.
I'd argue that Andre the "songwriter" who produces and writes songs with real content, instead of your typical bytches, blunts, and gun talk is just as valuable as any drug dealer turned MC that New York hypes up
It's not anymore ridiculous than putting Jadakiss or Pun or Big L in the discussion.
I respect all of those dudes, but To Pimp A Butterfly & Good Kid are wayyyyyyyyyyyyy better than any of their records. It's not even close.
His sales came from being Eminem's "Black friend"
This was his fan base
It's always been like this.
A lot of the East Coast/West Coast drama that happened happened because East Coast outfits like The Source and BET would put anybody from New York over anybody else damn near, even when the West Coast was whooping everybody's ass, they were still hyping up New York all over the place.
Now, there are times like Nas or Biggie they were right, but more often than not, it's some bum ass subway nikka that they hype up and gets an Unsigned Hype piece and ends up being a corny punchline rapper.
Couldnt put Wu, Mobb Deep ,50 Cent, G Rap, KRS, LL, Diddy, Nas or Jay on that list I see.
Diddy? 50?And "LAD" ain't classic.
It isn't.I'd argue that Andre the "songwriter" who produces and writes songs with real content, instead of your typical bytches, blunts, and gun talk is just as valuable as any drug dealer turned MC that New York hypes up
It's not anymore ridiculous than putting Jadakiss or Pun or Big L in the discussion.
I respect all of those dudes, but To Pimp A Butterfly & Good Kid are wayyyyyyyyyyyyy better than any of their records. It's not even close.
whats funny is if great music or a great discography are what put u in the top 10...then there are more nyc based artist that should be on the list than there is now
His sales came from being Eminem's "Black friend"This was his fan base
Agreed sir
OnlyInCalifornia
Southern California/Vegas
receipts or
You know damn well they don't archive their threads nor is the board even up, stop playing games
The daps prove I am right breh.
nikkas make more anti ny threads than any other city on hereYou know damn well they don't archive their threads nor is the board even up, stop playing games
The daps prove I am right breh.
GZA made two undeniable classics (liquid swords, enter the wu-tang) and three more damn near undeniable classics (grandmasters, beneath the surface, the w)..
at the disrespect he's receiving simply because of where he's from.. there's very few rappers on this earth who can say they dropped as many classics as him and that includes cats who i think are better than him like nas and big daddy kane..I agree with this for the most part, acts like busta and the beastie boys were relevant for a couple of decades and few people would put either on a top 10 list.. but longevity favors LL in that aspect.. LL hasn't made a classic album in over 20 years, but neither have krs-one or ice cube, and LL also managed to consistently stay relevant in the hip hop world up until about 10 years ago which is a lot longer than just the other two by consistently making classic tracks..
pointproven214
i speak facts not emotions
this is not only disgraceful as fukk.... but stupid as fukk too
people rate them as great ARTISTS or RAPPERS
a classic album and the number of them you have, doesn't mean shyt if you are being rated on SKILL
dan marino is one of the greatest of all time.... he has no rings and 1-2 super bowls... but his skill is fukking off the charts
so no.... all these rappers didn't have smash after smash... or classic after classic....
but if you gave them the mic... and said rap right now.... and put them up against others in their era.... they'd be at the top of these lists
you can be great for different things... you can be a great pass rusher... or a great blocking back.... etc etc... most of these dudes you named, aren't top of any all time list, except biggie... who dropped about 4 albums worth of material... 2 albums.. 1 junior mafia.. wrote kim whole album.. plus features and remixes and guest spots
everyone else would be a great song writer (slick, lauryn, big) or a great lyricist (gza, pun, l, mos, jada, kane, big)
so no... longevity and album making isn't really highly regarded in hip hop.... can you fukking rap, yes or no
i based them on their skill and pun case and big l case i base them on their rapping skills not nothing else.
what viewpoints do you want me to change? lol. im probably the most unbiased poster in this thread. im neutral on the topic. meanwhile, youre the type of guy that thinks e-40 & mac dre are top 10 goats, which is on the other end of the extreme spectrum of the "new york or bust" idealists. actually youre worse, cuz at least theyre reppin the mecca.
street-based yes. ruff ryders & rocafella were geared towards the streets. just because some of the artists acquired mainstream bases, it doesnt mean that they werent street-based. ask yourself, since when did you see anybody from those labels aside from jay-z & dmx getting high ratings in mag reviews or being paraded around by industry & media outlets? they werent. they were moreso peoples champions. hell, EVEN DMX never got his proper amount of just due.
and bad boy was half-street/half-party. puffy signed the lox AFTER they made their name. he didnt sign them out of nowhere breh.
jada & juelz are popular all-around the map. are we gonna pretend that e-40 is? and im not saying that he went platinum in the bay alone, but the bay is known for having the most supportive rap fans ever. alot of guys that are considered random names were putting up the same numbers.
lol @ andre 3000 being a cultural icon. man youve been posting on here way too long.
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