On a technical level Eminem shyts on Nas and its not even close...heres why

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Confirmed, well nas has done it poorly a few times and well a few times but the point is true


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Don't know what you mean by flipping words thats a very generic term

i also don't know what he means by 'flipping words' and no nas has done double time flow nicely on a number of occassions. he does not do it for a full verse/song, but nas has it in his arsenal.
e.g.
jeezy - my president
lil wayne - outro

all i'll give you is flow variation and again since nas rarely does a fast flow, i don't know how he can vary his flow from fast to slow.
 

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And Em can't come up with "I drink Moet with Medusa give her shotguns in Hell" or any other meaningful rhyme filled with meaning and poetic nuance. Shyt outside of stringing, random, cartooney lines together, Eminem lacks the fortitude to come up with any poetical.
Actually he can

See renegade

Creating obscure metaphors is not an appeal to technique

The line is as meaningful as the owner decides to give to it

I can make up a silly metaphor and stretch and reach in a way to make it mean a bunch of things and connect it to some deeper meaning...thats not technique
 

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i also don't know what he means by 'flipping words' and no nas has done double time flow nicely on a number of occassions. he does not do it for a full verse/song, but nas has it in his arsenal.
e.g.
jeezy - my president
lil wayne - outro

all i'll give you is flow variation and again since nas rarely does a fast flow, i don't know how he can vary his flow from fast to slow.
NIGGGA NAS IS NOT DOIN DOUBLE TIME IN THOSE SONGSS

THE FACT U SAY THAT ONLY SHOWS HOW LIMITED NAS IS WHEN IT COMES TO TECHNIQUE :heh:
 

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Actually he can

See renegade

Creating obscure metaphors is not an appeal to technique

The line is as meaningful as the owner decides to give to it

I can make up a silly metaphor and stretch and reach in a way to make it mean a bunch of things and connect it to some deeper meaning...thats not technique

There's nothing in Renegade as nice a line as "I trip, we box up crazy bytches, aiming guns in all my baby pictures Beef with housing police, release scriptures that's maybe Hitler's"

If you think Eminem has the gift for imagery or poetical devices then it's pointless to argue. Nas is Shakespeare, Eminem is Dr.Seuss.
 

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eminem has no song technically better than take it blood


and 9 outta 10 times, eminem is rappin about nonsense so who cares

i notice dat white boys always get excited when a mc raps super fast:russ:
 

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There's nothing in Renegade as nice a line as "I trip, we box up crazy bytches, aiming guns in all my baby pictures Beef with housing police, release scriptures that's maybe Hitler's"

If you think Eminem has the gift for imagery or poetical devices then it's pointless to argue. Nas is Shakespeare, Eminem is Dr.Seuss.
look up the user @IllmaticPost .....nuff said
 

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See this is why you cant discuss things on the internet with some people.

You are trying to debate undebatable things here.
1 - your claiming Nas sounded nothing like Kool G Rap on his demo songs
2 - your claiming Kool G Rap didn't bust multi syllable rhymes during the golden age - WOW
3 - your claiming Eminem does much more complex multi syllable rhymes than AZ - WOW

we cant even have a rational discussion cause your divorced from the facts...

i never said g rap did'nt use multis i said he did'nt have a perfect structure with his multis smh

and eminem does use more complex rhymes then az fukk out of here

smh at your responses u saying all these things with no facts.
 

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There's nothing in Renegade as nice a line as "I trip, we box up crazy bytches, aiming guns in all my baby pictures Beef with housing police, release scriptures that's maybe Hitler's"

If you think Eminem has the gift for imagery or poetical devices then it's pointless to argue. Nas is Shakespeare, Eminem is Dr.Seuss.
Left the house, pulling out the drive backing out
Blew the back end out this lady's Jag, started blacking out
Pulled the Mac-10 out, stuck it in her face
Shut your yacking mouth, 'fore I blow the brain from out the back ya scalp
Drug her by her hair, smacked her up
Thinking fukk it, mug her while you're there, jacked her up
Stole her car and made a profit,grabbed the tape from out the deck
And loft it out the window like the girl in Set It Off did
Jetted off kid, stole the whip, now I'm a criminal
Drove it through somebody's yard, dove into they swimming pool
Climbed out and collapsed on the patio
I made it out alive but I'm injured badly though
Parents screaming, son go in and call the police
Tell em there's a crazy man disturbing all of the peace
Tried to stall him at least long enough to let me leap up
Run in they crib and at least leave with some little cheap stuff
Acting like they never seen nobodyhit a lick before
Smashed the window, grabbed the Nintendo 64
When they sell out in stores the price triples
I ran up the block jumping kids on tricycles
And collided with an eighty year old lady with groceries
There goes cheese, eggs, milk and Post Toasties
Stood up and started to see stars
Too many siren sounds, it seemed like a thousand police cars
Barely escaped, musta been some dumb luck
Jumped up and climbed the back of a moving dump truck
But I think somebody seen me maybe
Plus I lost the damn Nintendo and I musta dropped a Beanie Baby
fukk it I give up, I'm surrounded in blue suits
Came out with a white flag hollering truce-truce
And surrendered my weapon to cops
Wasn't me, it was the gangster rap and the peppermint Schnapps
 

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And Em can't come up with "I drink Moet with Medusa give her shotguns in Hell" or any other meaningful rhyme filled with meaning and poetic nuance. Shyt outside of stringing, random, cartooney lines together, Eminem lacks the fortitude to come up with any poetical.

yea nas is better with metaphors and wordplay im not arguing this but as far as punchlines and rhyming words nas don't stand a chance against eminem.
 

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Love the SSEP but nothing on that or any of his succeeding albums is touching the imagery of a Nas verse.

yea nas is better with metaphors and wordplay im not arguing this but as far as punchlines and rhyming words nas don't stand a chance against eminem.

No doubt. I just think metaphors, wordplay, word choice > rhyming, syllable counting, punchlines
 

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No. You never advanced past 9th grade Literature class and thus that's why you think this is any kind of argument.
Yes I have...:birdman:

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Mother Teresa left out cuz she never wanted to Mary(marry) us motherfckers

There u go I juus made a line deeper than any line Nas has ever made..but it prolly went over ur head :youngsabo:
 

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i also don't know what he means by 'flipping words' and no nas has done double time flow nicely on a number of occassions. he does not do it for a full verse/song, but nas has it in his arsenal.
e.g.
jeezy - my president
lil wayne - outro

all i'll give you is flow variation and again since nas rarely does a fast flow, i don't know how he can vary his flow from fast to slow.

and just because nas don't rap in double time flow don't mean he can't rap fast

for what is it is worth he does have faster bpms then eminem he raps at a faster tempo then eminem when eminem is not using the double time flow yall act like nas flow is some chopped and screwed shyt ! smh.
 

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Often times you'll hear deluded Nas stans say things like Nas being the most technical MC and sht....

When this couldnt be farther from the truth

Nas actually isnt even worthy to spit shine Em's boots technically and I will outline the reasons why

Nas lacks the ability to double time efficiently while Em can

Doubletiming is a high level technical ability that can only be mastered through many hours of practice and honing...u just cant get the ability to double time..it takes alooot of practice and Nas shows he lacks the ability to do so while Em can

Nas lacks the ability to flip words and play with words at the level Em does
Nas has never been much of a player and flipper of words but more of a "metaphorical" kind of rapper which is not really a testament of technical ability
Nas doesnt portray the level of ability Em has of playing and flipping words...


Nas lacks the ability to maximize flow variation to its full potential..
Being able to create and switch through flows seamlessly in a song is a very technical ability that Nas in his 20 years of rapping has never mastered
Em makes him look like a peon in this aspect and its not even funny

Now Nas does have some qualities over Nas like his storytelling(which is not a technical aspect), his odd vocabulary(again which is not a testament to technique) and his obscure metaphoric language

But that doesnt help his case

So there u have it folks

Nas is a peon to Eminem in the technical realm of an MC

Discuss :patrice:

Try to rap like Nasir Da Gawd, Fail, and change your style brehs....

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Often times you'll hear deluded Nas stans say things like Nas being the most technical MC and sht....

When this couldnt be farther from the truth

Nas actually isnt even worthy to spit shine Em's boots technically and I will outline the reasons why

Nas lacks the ability to double time efficiently while Em can

Doubletiming is a high level technical ability that can only be mastered through many hours of practice and honing...u just cant get the ability to double time..it takes alooot of practice and Nas shows he lacks the ability to do so while Em can

Nas lacks the ability to flip words and play with words at the level Em does
Nas has never been much of a player and flipper of words but more of a "metaphorical" kind of rapper which is not really a testament of technical ability
Nas doesnt portray the level of ability Em has of playing and flipping words...


Nas lacks the ability to maximize flow variation to its full potential..
Being able to create and switch through flows seamlessly in a song is a very technical ability that Nas in his 20 years of rapping has never mastered
Em makes him look like a peon in this aspect and its not even funny

Now Nas does have some qualities over Nas like his storytelling(which is not a technical aspect), his odd vocabulary(again which is not a testament to technique) and his obscure metaphoric language

But that doesnt help his case

So there u have it folks

Nas is a peon to Eminem in the technical realm of an MC

Discuss :patrice:

I was going to respond but then realized you're a dumbass. Carryon troll.
 
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