Only 4.5 GB of ram available to games on ps4

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No, not they're not going to be the same.
If true.

5.5 gigs of gddr5 = Superior to 5 gigs of ddr3
PS4-and-Xbox-One-GPU.jpg

That GPU is inferior.

Sorry man. You're paying more, for Less, and bytch i love it. :shaq:

Xbox wont even release the official clockspeeds of their CPU and from what ive read everything points to that being trash as well, by a GiGAHERT. :whoo: Wow, that gigahurts. :youngsabo:

Gotta have to see the difference when they side by side. if there is a difference when playing games. :mjpls:
 

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Either way fam...MOST have them as even as there's advantages and disadvantages with each system...therefore it isn't as cut and dry like i said before...it's a FACT the gpu on the 360 is more powerful...it's a FACT that the CPU in the PlayStation is FAR more powerful...as far as overall power of each system...its not cut and dry..which is why in most cases and comparisons it just ends up boiling down to the games...im standing by this...ANY time it was a significant difference in performance with a game..it has been Dev related...look game for game comparisons g...
It was dev related early on, 2006/2007 was when it was at its worst
from 2008/2009 on it was almost always hardware related.
And I literally just explained WHY the advantage
Cell brought was mitigated by the weak GPU.
Did you even read my explanation as to why that is ?
Are you really going to doubt the mountain of evidence in
my favor from several developers who have hands on experience
with the machine ? All of the articles in my favor ? All of the
actual games on the market in my favor ?

Games like Crysis 3 and Metro last light run pretty damn good on
ps3 but certain things like frame rate are better on 360 because
of the differences in the performance of the two machines.
This is despite parity no longer being an issue. .
You can stand by it if you want but it just isn't the truth.
Anyways I've argued this point enough, believe what you like
but if you want to learn more about the differences between
the two machines I'd suggest you check out websites like the one
I linked earlier and : Eurogamer.net • video game reviews, news, previews, forums, and videos • Eurogamer.net

Digital Foundry has several comparisons between real games
and interviews with information straight from the horses mouth
detailing why certain things didn't run well on the ps3 (fill rate being
a good example, this is why certain games had grass omitted because
fill rate had heavy use of transparencies, this also the reason the
ps3 struggled with the Zone Of Enders port because it absolutely
abused the monstrous fill rate available on the ps2 ....)

I won't argue any further, That's two links to websites that have
discussed both machines to death and uncovered tons of info
in the past seven years. There is no speculation to be had
it's literally right in front of you.
 

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what are you talking about? 60fps is a design decision simple and plain, the PS4 is more than capable of doing what the XB1 does.

you are right... They are like booo who wants 60fps. We don't want call of duty like success. Screw that.
 

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People were getting on Microsoft for blocking up so much resources, including RAM, for non-gaming features and rightfully so, and were using the 7GB of GDDR5 for games as a point against the One, but now it comes out that Sony is actually blocking off MORE RAM for no real reason... and now the rallying cry is 4 GB is enough? If 4 GB was enough, then why was that ever being used as an advantage in PS4's favor if it just merely stockpiled a resource developers would never use? Put in less RAM and drop the price even further.

Sony deserves to be criticized for this all about games stance. Microsoft is actually using those resources for things like DVR, kinect (voice and motion navigation/interaction), etc. What is Sony's excuse for using MORE resources? It's all about the games, but Sony is potentially blocking off MORE resources but nothing to show for it all in the name of this supposed 'feature parity.' Well if it's about 'feature parity', then Sony is already behind. We accepted the PS4 not having DVR/camera integration due to supposedly more of these resources being allocated to games when that isn't the case. Sony better toss in DVR and match it feature for feature if they are going to lock up just as much resources for the OS as the One.

This makes no sense You're working under the assumption that if sony reduced the memoy to 4 gigs to reduce the price, they'd have 4 gigs available for Games, which is not the case.
 
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I'm a big online gamer so the obvious choice is Xbox. I need a reliable service that won't be hacked or down. If PS comes out with a subsequent system after this I could see them actually hiring MS to run their online gaming stuff so that it works.

Add in the fact I need something that feels like a real controller in my hand. I'm not trying to fukk with a controller that the only update was an added joystick from the original PS.

I feel like people only latched onto PS cause of the blu-ray. I had an XBox and was looking at blu-ray players and was close to just copping a PS3 because the price difference was kinda worth it. Now that they don't have that advantage, they should really think about just partnering with Nintendo. A Mario exclusive would keep PS afloat and finally give PS an exclusive that can compete sales wise with Xbox.
 

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I like to throw out the esram 192 gb/s number that digital foundry hasn't recanted yet. But whatever It appears that the ps4 gddr5 runs at 178 gb/s but only going to have 4.5gb ram available (without getting permission). 8 divided by 176 means 22 per gb of ram. 4.5 x 22 = 99 gb/s.

The xbox one 8 GB of DDR3 RAM with a memory bandwidth of 68.3 GB/s.with only 5 available for gaming 42 gb/s

42 gb/s compared to 99 gb/s is a no brainer. Except that esram that is rumored to be 192 gb/s read and write may actually only be 102 gb/s.

So we are looking at at least 144 gb/s to 99 gb/s... It looks like an xbox win but ps4 will be easier to make the games for. so who will win?
Boyyy where the fukk you get this math from??:russ:
 
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