Overpaid Federal Employees

[Type Username Here]

Oh you mean in relation to the top 1-5% That's an interesting way of assessing ones market value.

These are people who decide "one's value". They take a larger chunk of the pie. They often get rewarded when they fail.

But anyway, don't ignore this:

Median household income adjusted for inflation. It went up $11,000 in ~40 years.

Take into account that price for food, education, housing, and so on increased much more than that in this timeframe. Also don't forget to take into account that income during the early years were often one parent income, as opposed to the two parent income we have now.

$11,000 year raise over 4 decades, and most of that is achieved by having a second parent work.

Ignore facts brehs.

 

[jilla82]

One of the biggest myths in the entire history of man. Also extremely ignorant of current news:



http://time.com/76655/google-apple-settle-wage-fixing-lawsuit/

I'm sure those engineers and computer scientists, most of whom who have masters and PhDs, and extremely valuable skills and experience, should instead ALL become CEOs.

They arent the only games in town.
shyt...there are high paying manual labor jobs they are having difficulty filling.

 

[KingpinOG]

Might be true for you, but to me with the experiences I've had across several agencies, it seems like a ridiculous statement. The stories I could tell of these lazy overpaid government sloths who engage in the most ridiculous of behavior with only so much as a slap on the wrist.

I joked about this in the DEA-Facebook thread, but I was serious. . . when you fukk up, especially as a higher up, you retire early with a full pension or you're moved to another low-profile office with a promotion.

And workers are paid too much because raises are more so a mandatory formality as long as you've jumped hoops to qualify for the next GS level. I never saw merit raises that were truly merited by outstanding work.

After one year on the job, my salary increased $12,000 and I spent the majority of my time reading magazines. I did almost no work and that wasn't by choice. I shot the shyt every day with a group of guys that acted more like a fraternity than a group of professionals.

And the sad thing is that we have people in this thread defending that waste.

 

[jilla82]

These are people who decide "one's value". They take a larger chunk of the pie. They often get rewarded when they fail.

But anyway, don't ignore this:

Median household income adjusted for inflation. It went up $11,000 in ~40 years.

Take into account that price for food, education, housing, and so on increased much more than that in this timeframe. Also don't forget to take into account that income during the early years were often one parent income, as opposed to the two parent income we have now.

$11,000 year raise over 4 decades, and most of that is achieved by having a second parent work.

Ignore facts brehs.

does this take into account how the economy is much different?
WW2 boosted the economy...plus factory jobs were in abundance.

You cant just expect to walk into a great job because your heart is breathing.
I always preach this on here...but you really have to be about your businesses in 2014...there is a crazy amount of opportunity for everyone in this country...but the old way of doing things will have you on your ass.

 

[Type Username Here]

They arent the only games in town.
shyt...there are high paying manual labor jobs they are having difficulty filling.

does this take into account how the economy is much different?
WW2 boosted the economy...plus factory jobs were in abundance.

You cant just expect to walk into a great job because your heart is breathing.
I always preach this on here...but you really have to be about your businesses in 2014...there is a crazy amount of opportunity for everyone in this country...but the old way of doing things will have you on your ass.

Capitalists

Just ignored the data and facts and went right on ahead pushing his myths.

 

[DEAD7]

These are people who decide "one's value".

I know you believe this wholeheartedly too.

They take a larger chunk of the pie.

There is no "Pie".

 

[Rarely-Wrong Liggins]

Wait, hearts breathe now?

 

[jilla82]

Capitalists

Just ignored the data and facts and went right on ahead pushing his myths.

breh...I looked at it.
Those were facts I presented.
The economy is different....you cant fight automation...its here, and more is coming whether you like it or not.

Its just life...people that expect others to look out for them are in for a world of hurt...its not real life (its not how people at their core are).
You have to make yourself valuable, so other people either want you (and what you provide), or your products.

Capitalism isnt the problem....people that think like you have issues w/ adjusting.
We are competing w/ the world now. This isnt 1965 anymore.

 

[88m3]

attack the middle class so you can all be equal on the bottom, brehs

 

[acri1]

They arent the only games in town.
shyt...there are high paying manual labor jobs they are having difficulty filling.

 

[jilla82]

an example of the opportunity here:

They just did a story on CNN about the Oil Boom in North Dakota.
They profiled a black woman that drove from Florida to ND by herself.
She found a job the first day she was there (probably for 6 figures).

Now...if I was broke...I would be for sure in ND trying to get some of that money...but why do I know people who would rather sit on the couch and collect a check?
And lets not even get into all the opportunities on the internet.

but yea...lets just talk about facts and figures to make it easy for people to come up w/ excuses as to why they dont have the life they want.

 

[DEAD7]

Capitalism isnt the problem....people that think like you have issues w/ adjusting.
We are competing w/ the world now. This isnt 1965 anymore.

Talk these niqqas J

 

[Rarely-Wrong Liggins]

but yea...lets just talk about facts and figures to make it easy for people to come up w/ excuses as to why they dont have the life they want.

Yeah, God forbid we use facts and statistics in a debate when it goes against @jilla82 narrow worldview.

 

[acri1]

an example of the opportunity here:

They just did a story on CNN about the Oil Boom in North Dakota.
They profiled a black woman that drove from Florida to ND by herself.
She found a job the first day she was there (probably for 6 figures).

Now...if I was broke...I would be for sure in ND trying to get some of that money...but why do I know people who would rather sit on the couch and collect a check?
And lets not even get into all the opportunities on the internet.

but yea...lets just talk about facts and figures to make it easy for people to come up w/ excuses as to why they dont have the life they want.

What It Takes To Strike Job Gold In North Dakota's Oil Boom

Williston, North Dakota has a population of about 18,500. In the winter months, temperatures can drop to a scarf-shredding -50°. Shopping options are limited, with Walmart serving as the general hub of retail activity. But Williston also has the highest rent in the entire country.

The recent oil boom in North Dakota has turned Williston into the epicenter of a modern day gold rush, making it a more expensive place to live than hubs of wealth like Boston, Los Angeles, and New York. The Fiscal Times reports that the state's oil production is up around 27 million barrels per month, rivaled only by Texas, generating over 75,000 new jobs and tripling wages.

But wages aren't the only thing that's up. With thousands flocking to Williston, crime is also on the rise.Housing shortage is a serious problem. So before you go chasing the American Dream, take a look at this beginner's guide to surviving the oil boom. And make sure you buy some leg warmers.

Make no mistake: Williston may have the lowest rate of unemployment in the country (one percent), but anyone hoping to try their luck is in store for some harsh realities. Days are long and physically intense; schedules are built around the company's needs, not yours.

That's to say nothing of the housing situation in Williston, where you could be making six figures while living in the parking lot of the very same Walmart mentioned above.

"[You] don't shower for a week. No food. It's rough," Tyler Pavlacky, who moved away from his girlfriend and two-year-old daughter to try his luck in Williston, told USA Today. "Trying to find a place to go to the bathroom you wouldn't think is so hard."

In case the part about living in a parking lot (or the term "man camps") wasn't warning enough, let us repeat: the housing situation in North Dakota is not for the faint of heart. Workers like Sean Campbell, who lived outside of Walmart before returning home to Michigan, told CNN Money that he strongly advised finding a job that offers housing. But even with some employers renting out entire floors of hotels around Williston (at "affordable" rates like $700 per night), this is more easily said than done. Get your housing figured out before you hit the road, or else you may face a strong risk of living in it.

You hear stories about people traveling to North Dakota and having a job (and untold fortunes) fall into their laps. And while there's some truth to calling Williston the town the recession forgot, finding a job there isn't as simple as just showing up with a pair of gloves and a hard hat. Oil rig jobs are particularly difficult to come by, typically requiring a solid connection and at least two years' experience.

http://jobs.aol.com/articles/2014/03/20/oil-boom-north-dakota-what-it-takes/


Clearly they're over in North Dakota living in the lap of luxury.

 

[ORDER_66]

WTF IS THIS POLITICIANS TALKING ABOUT??!?!? IF ANYONE IS OVERPAID ITS THESE a$$holeS... CONGRESS SHUTS DOWN FEDERAL WORKERS DONT GET PAID, CONGRESS DOES!!! WHAT THE fukk shyt IS THAT???