P.K Subban Says NBA Superstars Lack Pride And Effort "What are they playing for?"

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THIS AINT ABOUT NO DAMN FIGHTING
ITS ABOUT SHOWING UP
AND ACTING LIKE YOU GIVE A DAMN.

nikkaS PULLING ARGUMENTS
OUT THE ASS BECAUSE
THERES NO REBUTTAL TO WHAT HE SAID

:devil:
:evil:


The reason the NHL 4 Nations Cup went viral is because of the players fighting, that’s what got ppl to tune in and start talking about it. Then what happened is people start using that to shyt on the NBA

If those fights don’t happen, that shyt doesn’t go viral just like every other thing the NHL does and ESPN doesn’t bring a hockey player who doesn’t even really watch the NBA to compare the two sports

It’s not hard to see why it’s relevant in this discourse
 

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THIS AINT ABOUT NO DAMN FIGHTING
ITS ABOUT SHOWING UP
AND ACTING LIKE YOU GIVE A DAMN.

nikkaS PULLING ARGUMENTS
OUT THE ASS BECAUSE
THERES NO REBUTTAL TO WHAT HE SAID

:devil:
:evil:

I actually never disagreed with what Subban said, I just added my comments about the side convo about the fighting from the two different leagues.
 

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The reason the NHL 4 Nations Cup went viral is because of the players fighting, that’s what got ppl to tune in and start talking about it. Then what happened is people start using that to shyt on the NBA

If those fights don’t happen, that shyt doesn’t go viral just like every other thing the NHL does and ESPN doesn’t bring a hockey player who doesn’t even really watch the NBA to compare the two sports

It’s not hard to see why it’s relevant in this discourse

THIS THREAD IS ABOUT PK
AND WHAT HE SAID IN THE VIDEO
NOT ABOUT WHATEVER YOU SAW ON TWITTER.

HOW ABOUT WE ADDRESS THE TOPIC?

:devil:
:evil:
 

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NHL has a point system so literally every game matters because you could have more losses than one team but still get points if those losses were in an overtime game therefore pushing you ahead. while the NBA has just wins and losses you get way more lead way with that especially because typically if a team reaches 44-48 wins they are making the playoffs so you get more room for error.

Fair
 

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THIS AINT ABOUT NO DAMN FIGHTING
ITS ABOUT SHOWING UP
AND ACTING LIKE YOU GIVE A DAMN.

nikkaS PULLING ARGUMENTS
OUT THE ASS BECAUSE
THERES NO REBUTTAL TO WHAT HE SAID

:devil:
:evil:

Because he’s being disingenuous about the real reason it’s impossible for nhl teams to load manage or plays to take off. It has nothing to do with culture.
 

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NHL has a point system so literally every game matters because you could have more losses than one team but still get points if those losses were in an overtime game therefore pushing you ahead. while the NBA has just wins and losses you get way more lead way with that especially because typically if a team reaches 44-48 wins they are making the playoffs so you get more room for error.

Why doesn’t the NBA just do that?

Wouldn’t it add another dimension to gambling too?
 

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THIS THREAD IS A PK
AND WHAT HE SAID IN THE VIDEO
NOT ABOUT WHATEVER YOU SAW ON TWITTER.

HOW ABOUT WE ADDRESS THE TOPIC?

:devil:
:evil:


Literally the only part of the game ESPN is showing in this exact clip are players fighting, but you wanna act like I’m pulling some shyt out of thin air like it has absolutely nothing to do with anything regarding why ESPN had PK Subban talking about the NBA and why the US/Canada game blew up

You got it man, as always your word is gospel
 

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Siliver and Stern finally pushed black american players out the game.
the removed physicality, creativity, the art of basketball and allowed it to become a game of metrics, softness, and robotic play styles.
They removed rivalry, division titles mean nothing, conference champs mean nothing, the made regular season worthless because 20 teams make the playoffs out of the 30 teams in the fukking league. How do you have a playoffs when more teams are in it than out of it? SMH.

The league also made the devils bargin of marketing itself on superstars instead of teams, which means it will always have highs and valleys as the generational talent is found, but also means it literally will change the ruleset to cater to the "faces' of the league.

the NBA is a poor product, stop complaining, just stop watching it.
 

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I actually never disagreed with what Subban said, I just added my comments about the side convo about the fighting from the two different leagues.

I never said he didn’t make any points either but the biggest reason NHL had this moment is because of something that the NBA actively wants to not happen. I don’t get how acknowledging that is derailing but if our overlord says it is then oh well :manny:
 

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THIS AINT ABOUT NO DAMN FIGHTING
ITS ABOUT SHOWING UP
AND ACTING LIKE YOU GIVE A DAMN.

nikkaS PULLING ARGUMENTS
OUT THE ASS BECAUSE
THERES NO REBUTTAL TO WHAT HE SAID

:devil:
:evil:

I don’t know why this going over nikkas heads :mjlol:

PK was dropping gems. He clearly stated : What are you playing for? It’s not about the money since you make hundreds of millions of dollars.

Growing up playing hockey in Canada I know exactly the culture PK talking bout cause it’s so engrained in guys from when you’re 8, 9, 10 years old not to be selfish, stick up for your teammate and leave it all on the ice, every single game. Getting to the show, wearing a Leafs, Habs, Rangers, Bruins, etc., NHL players don’t take that shyt lightly. The shyt that flys in NBA locker rooms could never happen in the NHL because there’s no “me” culture.

This is also a detriment to the league because guys become so robotic and don’t really show their personalities but it’s truly because they are “team” first. As fans, we get the best product on the ice EVERY night. I go to 9-10 Leafs games every year still and got rid of my Raptors season tickets a couple years back because the regular season is a joke.

Current NBA players are coming in the league looking to strengthen their personal “brands” and how to position themselves to maximize their second contracts. I’ve watched and listened to enough current and former NBA players on podcasts talk about how guys will sabotage their teammates during contract years to stat pad for better stats during games and guys straight up going rogue with their own agenda getting up shots trying to average more points to maximize their pay.

It’s one thing to want to play better to
position yourself for a better contract, it’s some other shyt to do it at the detriment of your team and this is the norm in the NBA. If an NHL player was blatantly sabotaging his team to better position himself, he’d be playing in the KHL next year. It just doesn’t happen and when you let all the “player empowerment” shyt run wild the way it did in the NBA the last decade, this is the culture you build. A place where the league is at rock bottom and the product is shyt.
 

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All you cats do is cry. It’s not what it once was. It’s been acknowledged over and over and over again. Now stop watching and STFUUUUUU :laugh:
 
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I don’t know why this going over nikkas heads :mjlol:

PK was dropping gems. He clearly stated : What are you playing for? It’s not about the money since you make hundreds of millions of dollars.

Growing up playing hockey in Canada I know exactly the culture PK talking bout cause it’s so engrained in guys from when you’re 8, 9, 10 years old not to be selfish, stick up for your teammate and leave it all on the ice, every single game. Getting to the show, wearing a Leafs, Habs, Rangers, Bruins, etc., NHL players don’t take that shyt lightly. The shyt that flys in NBA locker rooms could never happen in the NHL because there’s no “me” culture.

This is also a detriment to the league because guys become so robotic and don’t really show their personalities but it’s truly because they are “team” first. As fans, we get the best product on the ice EVERY night. I go to 9-10 Leafs games every year still and got rid of my Raptors season tickets a couple years back because the regular season is a joke.

Current NBA players are coming in the league looking to strengthen their personal “brands” and how to position themselves to maximize their second contracts. I’ve watched and listened to enough current and former NBA players on podcasts talk about how guys will sabotage their teammates during contract years to stat pad for better stats during games and guys straight up going rogue with their own agenda getting up shots trying to average more points to maximize their pay.

It’s one thing to want to play better to
position yourself for a better contract, it’s some other shyt to do it at the detriment of your team and this is the norm in the NBA. If an NHL player was blatantly sabotaging his team to better position himself, he’d be playing in the KHL next year. It just doesn’t happen and when you let all the “player empowerment” shyt run wild the way it did in the NBA the last decade, this is the culture you build. A place where the league is at rock bottom and the product is shyt.
Sure but still as I keep saying NHL doesn’t have the problem because it has an entire different structure than the nba. You literally can’t take off an nhl game it can cost you a playoff berth that’s not the same in any other sport but baseball which also has load management
 
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