Predictions of the Mueller Investigation's Outcome

[Geek Nasty]

Length of Special Counsel Investigations:

Watergate: 4 years
Iran-Contra: almost 7 years
Whitewater: more than 7 years

And, the only thing that came out of Whitewater, a scam being run ON THE CLINTONS from the 70s I think (they LOST MONEY), was "oh yeah, we also found the President was getting his dikk sucked by an intern last week, then we asked him under oath and he denied it." The classic example of a perjury trap.

I remember always hearing about Whitewater and the whole thing was inflamed by a bullshyt Times article that omitted the pages of some document exonerating the Clintons. It would be like claiming I cheated on my taxes when all you looked at was the first 2 pages of my 1040.

 

[Orbital-Fetus]

Judge Irving Kaufman presiding over the Rosenberg trial:

I consider your crime worse than murder.
I believe your conduct in putting into the hands of the Russians the A-Bomb years before our best scientists predicted Russia
would perfect the bomb has already caused, in my opinion, the Communist aggression in Korea, with the resultant casualties
exceeding 50,000 and who knows but that millions more of innocent people may pay the price of your treason.

they were convicted of espionage...not treason but even the judge recognized their actions as treasonous.
the only reason that they were not convicted of treason is because guess what?

we the US was not at war with Russia.

you really want to play this game of semantics and ignore what is really going on?

i'll give you a minute to get out of your feelings after reading this before you respond with some more bullshyt that i can take apart with little to no effort.

i wish you trumptards were smarter.
it would be more fun to argue with you.

 

[Starman]

Judge Irving Kaufman presiding over the Rosenberg trial:

I consider your crime worse than murder.
I believe your conduct in putting into the hands of the Russians the A-Bomb years before our best scientists predicted Russia
would perfect the bomb has already caused, in my opinion, the Communist aggression in Korea, with the resultant casualties
exceeding 50,000 and who knows but that millions more of innocent people may pay the price of your treason.

they were convicted of espionage...not treason but even the judge recognized their actions as treasonous.
the only reason that they were not convicted of treason is because guess what?

we the US was not at war with Russia.

you really want to play this game of semantics and ignore what is really going on?

i'll give you a minute to get out of your feelings after reading this before you respond with some more bullshyt that i can take apart with little to no effort.

i wish you trumptards were smarter.
it would be more fun to argue with you.

It's not semantics. Compare their actions. Manafort cheated on his taxes, attempted witness tampering, and a violated FARA iirc. The Rosenbergs passed atomic secrets to Russia! How the hell are these scenarios comparable?

 

[choc_cardigan]

Judge Irving Kaufman presiding over the Rosenberg trial:

I consider your crime worse than murder.
I believe your conduct in putting into the hands of the Russians the A-Bomb years before our best scientists predicted Russia
would perfect the bomb has already caused, in my opinion, the Communist aggression in Korea, with the resultant casualties
exceeding 50,000 and who knows but that millions more of innocent people may pay the price of your treason.

they were convicted of espionage...not treason but even the judge recognized their actions as treasonous.
the only reason that they were not convicted of treason is because guess what?

we the US was not at war with Russia.

you really want to play this game of semantics and ignore what is really going on?

i'll give you a minute to get out of your feelings after reading this before you respond with some more bullshyt that i can take apart with little to no effort.

i wish you trumptards were smarter.
it would be more fun to argue with you.

If it helps he posted one of the funniest things I ever read here. Go Nunes go

 

[the cac mamba]

i'm more convinced now than ever that nothing's going to happen...

you mean this place spent two years jerking nap off about the all-important russia thread...but it doesnt mean shyt

 

[Black Panther]

If it helps he posted one of the funniest things I ever read here. Go Nunes go

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• Black Panther
• Aug 3, 2017

 

[Geek Nasty]

i'm more convinced now than ever that nothing's going to happen...

The official report isn't even in yet and we already have well over 100 charges, 26 people indicted, 5 plea deals, one person already served their sentence. Those are *at least* numbers. People keep saying "nothing has happened" because Trump hasn't been impeached but a whole lot of people underneath him have been charged. And that's just the Mueller-related stuff. Nevermind all the general a$$holes Trump didnt vet and just hired for kissing his ass.

The people under him are taking the deal for a reason. That shyt is about to bubble up to the top.

EDIT: oh yeah and SIX Trump-led organizations are under investigation including the charity that had to go under for fraud.

 

[Orbital-Fetus]

It's not semantics. Compare their actions. Manafort cheated on his taxes, attempted witness tampering, and a violated FARA iirc. The Rosenbergs passed atomic secrets to Russia! How the hell are these scenarios comparable?

prior to trump's run for president manafort helped prop up candidates in eastern european nations that are russian puppets.
this undermines NATO.

manafort was also trump's campaign manager....trump's campaign moved to soften the GOP's posture on russia.

don't play dumb with me.

the US and russia may not be in a state of declared war but we are indeed at war.

do you know why NATO exists?
are you an american?
do you history at all?
what do you want America and the world to look like in the future?

 

[GoddamnyamanProf]

i wish you trumptards were smarter.
it would be more fun to argue with you.

If they were any smarter, they wouldnt be trumptards...

 

[Orbital-Fetus]

it's straight up silly to defend trump based upon the fact that the crimes committed by manafort, gates and flynn simply because they are not legally categorized as treason.

it's not treason because we are not in a declared war.

do you not realize that there are acts of subversion against America that can take place in times of "Peace"?

what should happen to Americans who work to subvert America's general well being on the global stage?

@Great Scott

 

[CurrencyChase]

I hope no one talks & if anyone gets convicted of a crime cheeto pardons them asap

what?

 

[Shogun]

Preet Bharara, who worked with Mueller, has said several times he doesn't believe Mueller will indict a sitting president...

 

[Dat Migo]

A hanging on the front lawn.

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

I think something is going to happen

Bruh is acting too erratic
Typing in all Caps

He’ll probably do himself in

 

[Starman]

prior to trump's run for president manafort helped prop up candidates in eastern european nations that are russian puppets.
this undermines NATO.

manafort was also trump's campaign manager....trump's campaign moved to soften the GOP's posture on russia.

This just highlights how big of an IF there is in an "If we're at war scenario". It changes everything.

The fact is we aren't at war with Russia, and it's not a mere technicality, so the rules don't apply.

I hadn't considered Manafort's pre-campaign work in the Ukraine when answering your question, only actual charges he'd been convicted of/admitted to. With regards to his pre-camaign work, in (hypothetical) wartime, you could make an argument that it's treason. However, being at war with a country might have prevented him from taking that job. War changes everything.

the US and russia may not be in a state of declared war but we are indeed at war.

Hyperbole.

it's straight up silly to defend trump based upon the fact that the crimes committed by manafort, gates and flynn simply because they are not legally categorized as treason.

it's not treason because we are not in a declared war.

Again: we aren't at war with Russia, and it's not like someone just forgot to declare it by accident. America and Russia are not at war- declared or otherwise. Stop.

Also, being at war likely changes people's behavior too. Not just the rules.

do you not realize that there are acts of subversion against America that can take place in times of "Peace"?

what should happen to Americans who work to subvert America's general well being on the global stage?

Of course there acts of subversion that take place in times of peace. Like the aforementioned Rosenbergs. Americans who engage in espionage should get what they got. It takes some serious reaching to see anything comparable to what they did with manafort or flynn, though. But get your Dhalsim on.