People look at me strange when i say I don't really care for the lyrics of most songs. I'm more into how the song can groove or what emotions it can inspire. i focus more on the instrumental than anything. If I really wanted to think, I'd read or write. Most of these artists had very dysfunctional lives and what they're preaching on the song is often nothing like how they lived their real lives, and this is especially true of rap. They are kicking destructive fantasies to me while they do the complete opposite. How many rappers talk about, "Well i was just putting on a persona!"
Too Short is one of those guys. He talks about being a pimp and this and that, but in his interview he admits it's a persona. Same with a lot of these gangsta rappers. They preach the heroics of gangsterism and a lot of youth get killed trying to live out those fantasies, while those guys back up and say, "Hey, I was just reporting hood news/playing a role." Pretty pathetic.
I don't listen to much modern RnB at all, I can't stand the slow, sappy beats and the overly sexual lyrics. Old school soul/funk/fusion, which I listen to most out of all genres, I really try not to listen to the lyrics, but I just enjoy the groove and the mood the instrumental/singing sets. With modern RnB and even some old school soul, you will hear some flat out destructive things such as these guys telling you women come first, build your world around her, expressing your emotions and crying and just all kinds of sucker business. I love old school music more because of the instruments and the overall groove of the song.
What's even more disgusting is even decent books are hard to find now. Instead of people writing honestly, it's more about them doing some 'target marketed' trash where they are telling audiences what they want to hear or withholding information so they can get you to by the next book. A lot of these new age, success philosophy books pretty much got a lot of these people brainwashed, thinking the secret to success is chanting something in your head and visualizing success.... these guys will sell you the secret formula for success when their only success is the book they are selling. Pretty much hyping you up to go look for gold in the mountains while they sell you the shovels. If it was really gold up there in the mountains like that, they wouldn't be telling you, nor would they be selling you shovels. They'd be harvesting as much of it for themselves as possible. That's why I much prefer blogs and message boards where I can hear much more honest opinions than some target marketed nonsense which has been filtered and subdued by editors because they don't want to offend anyone or they need to sell ads.
It's like we're living in a society with nothing but dream peddlers and illusion sellers. I have to very carefully analyze what I'm doing or I'd be lost in the mix.
I agree with what you said about modern day R and B but remember Kev that even old school Stylistics had a "Your A Good Girl Now" type of songs. I would be lying if i said that alot of the old school artists did not also have simpish songs.
But I guess like you said, today its just over the top. If its a female artist like Aaliyah or Amy Winehouse then its no issue for me because they are just expressing their feminine nature and its not unnatural for them unlike a grown 40 year old whining about his ex baby girl.
I do not think its a coincidence that people....specifically women talk about their nostalgia for "90s R and B" right? Because I think that was the decade when it seems like people were breaking records for simping. People talk about today, but I think its the 90s that had it out of control. Especially with artists like Babyface...
Look at all those hundreds of simpish songs from a male perspective that he wrote for females in that decade

As for the whole persona thing, it just seems like certain guys don't grow out of it. I mean I can understand having it as a theme for one album like Nas did with It was Written, and then having all of his follow ups more diverse and only putting the occasional lines. But then you got dudes like Ross and Too Short who seem to can't let it go and continue to live in some fantasy world.


. Dont Pursue.9 times out of 10 she wont call.This is her way of running game.