Essential Quick Lil Gems on Dealing with Women

[Sharp]

I dont really have the interest in going back and forth with you because @VictorVonDoom is right, there isnt any space available for rational thought w/ people who hold such arch dogmatic views. The fact that your views on relationships and women are fueled by religion is no coincidence. At any rate, it troubles me that whenever I challenge you guys on your views, you revert to these reasonable positions, as if those are what has been espoused all along, and Im just overreacting.

"Oh, we just want women to allow men to be leaders of the household, blah blah blah"...Yeah, bullfcking sht. You guys think any kindness or affection afforded to a woman is simp behavior, among other absurd things. Its ironic you would bring up the Taliban, because someone in this thread recently said that he understands why the Taliban treats women the way they do. That statement is the pulse and energy of what this thread has become.

Im not perfect, but I stand behind what I write and what my views are. Thats why I have my pic up. Question: Would you want the important women in your life to actually read the sht you write in this thread? Of course not. What some of you guys are saying is boldly offensive. You would be embarrassed for people to read this crap.

You cats arent kickin knowledge, ya'll are just bitter women haters looking to the bible for justification for your warped views. Its all good tho. Do you. If a female is crazy enough to accept being essentialized as some evil sub species --- thats on her.

I'm not sure of what your views are. I haven't really checked them out as of yet. Your life's experience is what molds your perception.

You don't really know women until you've been hurt by one. And at the same time, you really don't know women until you've been loved by one. And our experiences are everything in between.

Saddened by your generalizations, as there are numerous facets to thought processes and theories that have been developed in this thread.

Men here are sharing their experiences, in what we consider a safe place.

Why do you feel the need to come in and disrupt the balance? Would you go to a KKK meeting and say "you guys are racist?"

This is exactly what you're doing. This is a place where we can develop our thoughts, get opinions and successions from our fellow brethren. We keep what we like and we discard what we feel is not beneficial, but if you've read this thread long enough, you'll realize one thing

WE RESPECT EACH OTHER AND WE DONT CHASTISE EACH OTHER, Regardless of how different or extreme our views may be.

That's the reason this thread continues...because it encourages people to be free, and build with the likeminded

Apparently this thread isn't for you, and that's cool breh. You got your philosophy, the way you like to deal with and treat your women. Much success to you. But don't come in here putting down the younger brehs.

A teacher who would rather call a student stupid than to educate then is worthless. WHat good is knowing what you know if you're going to use it to belittle people instead of uplift them.

Food for thought

 

[Scustin Trillberlake]

It's shyt like this that makes feminists believe 1 in 4 university women will be raped. They redefine the definition of rape to push an agenda.

 

[Scustin Trillberlake]

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[Wild self]

Im just going to say, on the topic of submission, you guys might be missing the point of the statement. Im going to explain why it works and is actually desired by women, and why it doesnt equate to slavery.

first of all, overall what we mean is cooperation, and some effort put back into the relationship from the woman. a woman who isnt submissive, doesnt want you to tell her anything, and doesnt think youre fit to be the head. there can only be one leader in a relationship. so let me tell you what happens when you have a woman who is not with your program. she will be difficult. she wants to do her own thing half the time, is always challenging, and always trying to one up you

1. you say "hon, lets go out to eat some place tonight. its getting late to cook, and theres this new place opened up about five minutes from here."

she says "what? why dont you make something? I dont want to go out. go pick me up something."

2. you say "if we want to go to the caymans this year, we need to cut back on the spending for now."

she says "hell no. youre not my boss. Im not saving shyt. YOU save money. I dont know what youre talking about ... but IM going with or without you."

if you feel like dealing with brattiness, entitlement, and a woman who wants to take control from you and call the shots, then thats all on you. but understand, that means you are submitting to her. if you are happy with that, fine. maybe you will have a malevolent woman, and one who has your best interests in mind. thats cool. do you.

but the rest of us, would like submission. that means to boss up in the relationship. to be the leader, and to be the one who ultimately calls the shots. and Ill tell you what that means before you bring out the whips and chains, beatings, slavery, and oppressive talk.

I want to ask the men out there; how many of you had to initiate contact with the girl? how many of you had to work on game, deal with rejection, and find out how to just walk up and holler at a female for her number? how many of you had to pick out the spot, help with the transportation for you two, make the arrangements, and provide a good time for your woman? how many of you are essentially the hosts, and guides for your women?

thus, you have her under your wing. you are the leader. she is willing (submissive), and if you notice, WANTS to have that man show her how resourceful and great you are. to be her guide to a good time. be funny. be the entertainment. protect her when your out. even pay the bill.

do you think females go around doing that for men? or that they want to do all that?

so yes, YOU ARE THE LEADER. dont let anyone tell you otherwise.

now with that, does she follow along? is she by your side? she hold you down? loyal to you? then she is obviously submitting to your leadership, and following your lead in the relationship. she likes you to take point. she wants you to calm her down and listen to her. she wants you to be in control.

thats what submission means. you provide, while she reciprocates and is under your wing.

the difference between slavery and submission? um, I dont know, how about being a prisoner of war, beaten and shackled, and forced into a life of hard labor?

the object of slavery is to have someone work for you, for nothing. a slave is to be underminded, subjugated, and treated all like shyt. and all for a hard days work and for the master to profit off of. the slave had no choice, and is done badly for the purpose of a bottomline in business. the master takes his slaves into a field, and kills them or beats them if theyre out of line. its all take - and its all forced.

then what is submission? its the work and labor that someone puts back in for the one they follow under. but its done A) willingly, and B) as a way of reciprocating what they recieve as valuable from their leader.

submission is already implied in the relationship of man and woman. in many, many ways.

she WANTS you to be the head of the household. to be a good example. to be powerful. she wants you to take the bullet, or go downstairs to check on the noise. she wants the man to lead her into a good life, make more money than her, give her things, and be in control. she wants you to be of many resources, know people around town, and overall not be a spineless wimp who bows and gets punked out by everyone. they cant support a follower, or a chump. they want the leader of the pack.

women even give in to a man with their bodies, by allowing a man to enter them and push in her guts. that is the ultimate submission. the whole relationship is deep, but Im not going to keep telling you. the main idea is, for us in the gems thread, to take charge of your life, and make sure youre not leading her into destruction.

bible or no, history shows us that men are the commanders, and are revered as such.

if YOU want a woman to lead, or take charge of your life, by all means - go for it.

that is your choice. but having a woman willfully submit to you means that you seek cooperation, and companionship from a woman that you are showing love and guidance to. anything less, means that she isnt feeling you, doesnt want to follow you, thinks shes better, or maybe even wants to disrespect what you bring to the table. Im not ever going to go for that. I chose to be the one in charge, and thats the only way it will ever be.

If a woman ever acts like that in front of me, she a jumpoff material. No woman will ever get smart in front of me and get away with that shyt.

 

[Wild self]

i was actually gonna contribute to this thread until I saw this thread turn into bible study. nikkas in here basing relationships off a book that has been b*stardized from egyptian mythology that tells stories about talking animals, food falling from the sky, a family getting every single animal on one big boat, a man being in a whale's belly for days, black race being cursed cuz some dude saw his pops butt ass naked and drunk, magic men that die on a cross and come back three days later and all other kinds of nonsense. they take that shyt LITERALLY! but im supposed to take the bible seriously when it talks about how to deal with women when all dem scriptures they quoted are just on some blatant mysogynist shyt. talking about "submit" and follow and all that bullshyt. pure quackery in here.

Damn. You rather have your chick as a "boss bytch" or the "independent woman" nonsense? Suits you.

 

[DaRealness]

There's been so much reaching in the last few pages, even Dhalsim couldn't keep up.

 

[rapdonttweet]

Can't say I agree with this "submitting" aspect. People are drawing a comparison between submitting and cooperating. I don't see it. Cooperation is an important part of a healthy relationship that should be done by both sides. Nothing about that involves submission. I cooperate with people every day. My coworkers, my boss, my friends, my family. If I didn't like these people I would tell them to fukk off. When it comes down to it, people do things for other people because they like them and care about them. Not because they are submitting to authority.

Now a female who undermines you and is always causing problems? That's just someone with a bad character who can't relate to people. Cut them loose and keep it moving.

Remember that you do not control a woman. She can up and leave you at any point in the relationship. She's there because she wants to be there. So be confident, take initiative, and don't change yourself for anyone. But don't let that fall into trying to establish your dominance over someone.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

what's your perspective on all of it? if you feel like the thread needs some balance let's build. Maybe you can bring another angle to it that some of us didn't factor or think of.

In terms of advice on dealing with relationship with women and balancing wants and needs with your woman, or just basic advice on dating and attracting women? That's good stuff to discus.

The thread seems to have been hijacked and derailed a bit into a circle-jerk of spiteful woman-haters lamenting that gender relations and womens' rights have moved beyond the Bronze Age. That's what I was commenting on.

 

[sixsixtwo]

There's been so much reaching in the last few pages, even Dhalsim couldn't keep up.

You know every 20 pages or so some wimp-simp comes in here throwing hay-makers & squawking like a petulant female.. Shyt is hilarious & pathetic at the same time..

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

I dont really have the interest in going back and forth with you because @VictorVonDoom is right, there isnt any space available for rational thought w/ people who hold such arch dogmatic views. The fact that your views on relationships and women are fueled by religion is no coincidence. At any rate, it troubles me that whenever I challenge you guys on your views, you revert to these reasonable positions, as if those are what has been espoused all along, and Im just overreacting.

"Oh, we just want women to allow men to be leaders of the household, blah blah blah"...Yeah, bullfcking sht. You guys think any kindness or affection afforded to a woman is simp behavior, among other absurd things. Its ironic you would bring up the Taliban, because someone in this thread recently said that he understands why the Taliban treats women the way they do. That statement is the pulse and energy of what this thread has become.

Im not perfect, but I stand behind what I write and what my views are. Thats why I have my pic up. Question: Would you want the important women in your life to actually read the sht you write in this thread? Of course not. What some of you guys are saying is boldly offensive. You would be embarrassed for people to read this crap.

You cats arent kickin knowledge, ya'll are just bitter women haters looking to the bible for justification for your warped views. Its all good tho. Do you. If a female is crazy enough to accept being essentialized as some evil sub species --- thats on her.

Kevm3 was justifying and defending Chris Brown for beating Rihanna's ass earlier in the thread. Reincar is worse. Dude literally laughed at spousal rape on the old site, and said that a man's wife's vagina is a his possession and equated it to a car. That's the type of dudes you're dealing with. There's no reaching them with rationality.

None of the dudes have any women. That's what funny, lol. We're supposed to be listening to dudes in their 20's with no education in counseling or psychology, and no wife, and strings of bad relationships who are spiteful from having been cheating on or having their potential children aborted by women "drop knowledge" or relationships.

Part of the reason why I know most of the stuff they're talking is bullshyt is because I am married for 6 years and have been with the same woman for going on 10 years, and I am the more dominant one and she is more submissive and some of our issues we've had in the past have arisen out of that dynamic. It's not perfect and we definitely have had our ups and downs and have even been on the brink of divorce before like most couples nowadays, but we've worked out a lot of things are we're closer now than ever.

Some women are comfortable totally submitting, not having an opinion and just cooking, cleaning, and childbearing due to how they have been acculturated. But unless you get a wife straight off the boat from Saudi Arabia somewhere, that's probably not going to be the case in America in 2013. So you can sit there and be bitter and cry like a little bytch because it's not the 1940's anymore, which ironically is not "manly" at all, or you can deal with reality (personally I wouldn't even want a woman like that).

Relationships have their distinct dynamics and there isn't a one-size-fits-all solution. There's going to be a struggle for power and respect, but that's something you have to work out and determine with your partner. Like I said, I have always been the more dominant one and my wife would often just accommodate me. But too much accommodation and lack of assertion on the part of a woman over time + verbal disrespect leads to built-up resentment and that will manifest itself in some ugly ways. She's not a dummy or some stepford wife. She's intelligent and college-educated.

So that's something we had to work out. We were getting into some bad fights over minor stuff that blew up much bigger than they should. We went to marriage counseling. Did weekly "active listening times" where we openly aired out our grievances or whatever. We started communicating more, respecting each other more, and alleviating the power struggle and being more cognizant that this is a partnership, not a hierarchy.

And at the end of the day, I do "lead" most of time. But there's a process where ideas are shared and the best agreement is reached. My logic has always been sharp, but now my communication skills are more effective so that I can articulate myself in a way that has her like And she usually agrees based on practicality, not submission. She trusts me to handle finances because I do a good job at it. And I listen to her and sometimes her ideas are better than mine. If they are, we go with them. That's a respectful, adult relationship.

But I suppose I could've just keep alienating her until she left then immersed myself into a world of internet losers calling people "manginas" and "white knights" and crying about women not submitting.

 

[Malcolmxxx_23]

In terms of advice on dealing with relationship with women and balancing wants and needs with your woman, or just basic advice on dating and attracting women? That's good stuff to discus.

The thread seems to have been hijacked and derailed a bit into a circle-jerk of spiteful woman-haters lamenting that gender relations and womens' rights have moved beyond the Bronze Age. That's what I was commenting on.

breh come on you still beefing with Kevm3 and reincar

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

breh come on you still beefing with Kevm3 and reincar

How am I beefing with them? I'm speaking on the topic. I never beefed with Kevm3 in the past anyway, just Reincar.

 

[CrossBones]

Can't say I agree with this "submitting" aspect. People are drawing a comparison between submitting and cooperating. I don't see it. Cooperation is an important part of a healthy relationship that should be done by both sides. Nothing about that involves submission. I cooperate with people every day. My coworkers, my boss, my friends, my family. If I didn't like these people I would tell them to fukk off. When it comes down to it, people do things for other people because they like them and care about them. Not because they are submitting to authority.

Now a female who undermines you and is always causing problems? That's just someone with a bad character who can't relate to people. Cut them loose and keep it moving.

Remember that you do not control a woman. She can up and leave you at any point in the relationship. She's there because she wants to be there. So be confident, take initiative, and don't change yourself for anyone. But don't let that fall into trying to establish your dominance over someone.

Im going to go in this one more time for people to understand what theyre saying. if we can reach a common ground, then maybe we can begin to see where the others coming from.

the preaching of the submission to God means that you give up your regular life, in order to pursue living up to the standards and order deemed by God. doing so - you now chose (big word to notice there) to abide by His rules and code. that is the submission from one life to the rules of another.

when you chose to follow the law of the land, and you chose to let police defend/protect your rights, or you agree to let them haul you into court for whatever reason, you are submitting yourself to the scrutiny and judgment to the power of the law. this is also a submission from one brand of life (lawless) to another brand (lawful)

now when you go to work, you are under the companys thumb, you report in regularly to your boss, and you "submit" your work there. this is done to meet the appropriate standards and codes under their rules. and yes, even school has a standard of behavior for accceptance and a need from you to conform and submit to their ways. no getting caught with drugs, no stealing, no fighting, etc etc. these are all rules to submit yourself to and live by.

a relationship can have this as well. and just as there is one submission to live by on one side, there is one on the other side as well. but men and women do not interchange their roles very effectively, nor is it desired by many people.

thats it. simple to understand.

 

[TRUEST]

Kevm3 was justifying and defending Chris Brown for beating Rihanna's ass earlier in the thread. Reincar is worse. Dude literally laughed at spousal rape on the old site, and said that a man's wife's vagina is a his possession and equated it to a car. That's the type of dudes you're dealing with. There's no reaching them with rationality.

None of the dudes have any women. That's what funny, lol. We're supposed to be listening to dudes in their 20's with no education in counseling or psychology, and no wife, and strings of bad relationships who are spiteful from having been cheating on or having their potential children aborted by women "drop knowledge" or relationships.

Part of the reason why I know most of the stuff they're talking is bullshyt is because I am married for 6 years and have been with the same woman for going on 10 years, and I am the more dominant one and she is more submissive and some of our issues we've had in the past have arisen out of that dynamic. It's not perfect and we definitely have had our ups and downs and have even been on the brink of divorce before like most couples nowadays, but we've worked out a lot of things are we're closer now than ever.

Some women are comfortable totally submitting, not having an opinion and just cooking, cleaning, and childbearing due to how they have been acculturated. But unless you get a wife straight off the boat from Saudi Arabia somewhere, that's probably not going to be the case in America in 2013. So you can sit there and be bitter and cry like a little bytch because it's not the 1940's anymore, which ironically is not "manly" at all, or you can deal with reality (personally I wouldn't even want a woman like that).

Relationships have their distinct dynamics and there isn't a one-size-fits-all solution. There's going to be a struggle for power and respect, but that's something you have to work out and determine with your partner. Like I said, I have always been the more dominant one and my wife would often just accommodate me. But too much accommodation and lack of assertion on the part of a woman over time + verbal disrespect leads to built-up resentment and that will manifest itself in some ugly ways. She's not a dummy or some stepford wife. She's intelligent and college-educated.

So that's something we had to work out. We were getting into some bad fights over minor stuff that blew up much bigger than they should. We went to marriage counseling. Did weekly "active listening times" where we openly aired out our grievances or whatever. We started communicating more, respecting each other more, and alleviating the power struggle and being more cognizant that this is a partnership, not a hierarchy.

And at the end of the day, I do "lead" most of time. But there's a process where ideas are shared and the best agreement is reached. My logic has always been sharp, but now my communication skills are more effective so that I can articulate myself in a way that has her like And she usually agrees based on practicality, not submission. She trusts me to handle finances because I do a good job at it. And I listen to her and sometimes her ideas are better than mine. If they are, we go with them. That's a respectful, adult relationship.

But I suppose I could've just keep alienating her until she left then immersed myself into a world of internet losers calling people "manginas" and "white knights" and crying about women not submitting.

lol aint nothing wrong with chris brown putting the beatdown on rihanna. he didn;t' have to beat her black and blue like that though. a slap or two and a pin down shoulda been enough. but i goto say though ur post was funny to read.

 

[Poh SIti Dawn]

What do guys think about talking to girls who's parents don't want them to date black men. Like if they're Russian, is it a waste of time or do you at least attempt to talk to her cause you think she's cute? Is that a self defeatist attitude?