2016 warriors? 
they not even beating the 2015 warriors 
Rip Hamilton on 2004 Pistons vs 2016 Warriors "It would be no comparison"
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2016 warriors? they not even beating the 2015 warriors 
The funny thing is that people go "well this team played this way, shot this much, played at this pace"
As if it's an automatic thing that 1 team can dictate their pace or their style but the other team can't.
Nobody here seems to account for the difference in era.
It's like saying the 2015 Saints would beat the 75 Steelers because of Brees' passing numbers.
You're talking about different contexts.
2003 and 2016 isn't quite as dramatic a change, but the point is made.
As if it's an automatic thing that 1 team can dictate their pace or their style but the other team can't.
Nobody here seems to account for the difference in era.
It's like saying the 2015 Saints would beat the 75 Steelers because of Brees' passing numbers.
You're talking about different contexts.
2003 and 2016 isn't quite as dramatic a change, but the point is made.
Those teams are close enough together in era to compare them. The offense the Pistons ran - hell EVERY offense that Larry Brown ran was archaic and got slapped up regularly even during a time when 90 points a night was doing okay. You could argue that the Pistons had the worst offense of any championship team of the past 20 years.
Mantis Toboggan M.D.
I’m here for the scraps
The rules haven't changed much at all the last 13 years. Strategies have just evolved. Teams don't shoot mid range jumpers off the dribble and insist on running post up plays for big men and having maybe 2 shooters on the floor now. Teams learned to value floor spacing and defending the fast break. It's not like all the rule changes in football that have been or in to kneecap defenses.
You could argue that it was a deliberately slower pace to effectively limit the opposing offense.
Look breh, I've already agreed with you TWICE that I think GS would win.
What's your problem?
You're mad because I don't think it'd be a sweep?
naw i'm just sayinYou could argue that it was a deliberately slower pace to effectively limit the opposing offense.
Look breh, I've already agreed with you TWICE that I think GS would win.
What's your problem?
You're mad because I don't think it'd be a sweep?
PaperEnterprise
It's the inner strength..
Interesting matchup stylistically but very hard to see the Pistons beating the Warriors over a 7 game series when you're playing 4-on-5 with Ben on the floor. Payton and Malone were finished by the time they got to LA and did nothing in the finals. Shaq still did his thing but Kobe got shut down. Manu shredded them the finals after.
Me too. I was a huge fan of sheed and Big Ben, but that offense was just
Even with them getting back there the following year, Miami went up 3-2 when Wade got hurt. They likely get closed out in game 6 with a healthy Wade. They were an anomaly. Every other championship team save for maybe the 2003 Spurs since the 2000 finals was a highly potent offense except them. Sheed going full retard and leaving Horry open is part of my point. They had a razor thin margin for error on defense because of how bad their offense was. Going into the fourth quarter of game 7 in Sam Antonio neither team had cracked 60 points. That's just not going to cut it against modern contenders who are both deep and stocked with plenty of shooters to space the floor and force the defense to stay at home unless they're willing to give up the open 3.
Totally ignoring the shifting of the rules which are now blatantly geared towards offense, to the point where aggressive defense is virtually non-permisble, until the NBA Finals.
During the Finals last year Kerr even lamented that GS wasn't used to the physical defense Cavs were playing, due to the fact that the refs didn't allow teams to play GS like that all year long.
MooseMouthMthafuga
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It's definitely getting chippy
Naw you need dominant scorers on top of great D to beat the Warriors...even more so now with this new iteration. Chauncey and Rip were nice but they were not dominant. Sheed had all the tools to be but didn't put it together consistently. That D and pace could keep them in it but you have to put the ball in the basket. This is just old head bravado.
MooseMouthMthafuga
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You would think the Warriors won the last 3 NBA Finals the way niccaz talk around here.
Bron almost beat em with a a CBA squad in '14 and stomped a mud hole in their azz last year.
And last years Cavs are not some "all time" great team.
The Warriors have yet to prove that they're some unstoppable force at that level of play(Finals).
Just looking at the stat sheet, the Warriors would be the GOAT team in the history of basketball.
But we know that's not true.I definitely think the '04 Pistons have a shot at beating them
.Bron almost beat em with a a CBA squad in '14 and stomped a mud hole in their azz last year.
And last years Cavs are not some "all time" great team.
The Warriors have yet to prove that they're some unstoppable force at that level of play(Finals).
Just looking at the stat sheet, the Warriors would be the GOAT team in the history of basketball.
But we know that's not true.I definitely think the '04 Pistons have a shot at beating them
They lost to the Spurs in seven games in the Finals next year, and they beat that Miami team that ended up the champions the next season. How are they overrated?
Yeah.
You serious?
