SMH...it is as if OutKast never existed in Atlanta

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Troy considers himself the king of crunk. He's one of the alternatives I was talking about who either did Crunk or Bass music.

Man many a club in Fayette 'Nam (the few black spots that stayed open long enuff back then) got tore the fukk up when that piano and snare dropped..one time Troy played @ The Crown for FSU's Homecoming 2000 and he barely got to whussup before nikkas started rushin the stage and shut the gig down :wow:
 
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:what: nikka wtf do you think the south is? A lost, forgotten part of the world or something? If it was like that then they would even get internet service. You're talking stupid simply because you don't care for music from Atlanta, typing essays and shyt?
bruh. been there done that. you aint talking to some dude from NYC or some west coast spot that has never left their state. i've been in the south. had people in the south(like most black people). with all the growth the ATL has experienced. There's still not much to do in reality. people are constantly opening up bars/eateries, which open one day close the next more or less. since its over saturated at this point. but when you ask a dude What is there to do in the A. you know what they tell you? the first thing they tell you is..... We can hit the strip club.

That is crazy to me. when the strip club is literally the first or 2nd thing TO do. but thats a culture in the A and maybe even a few other spots in the south(not all). So no wonder all they making is trap music/strip club anthems that end up in the regular club/bar.

let me give you an example.

Cali(my state). back when hiphop was so called great. We had dudes from the same city on completely different stuff.

i'm saying how do you go from Spice 1 (thug/street music). to too short( B's & H's music) to Souls of Mischief (smoking and just having a good time living life as youngins.)

all had hit songs/records around the same time periods.

how does one go from The Pharcyde to Ice Cube to Cypress Hill back to del the funky homosapien

COMPLETELY different artists/styles/production.

This DOES NOT EXIST in the mainstream today from the south. Dont tell me to go search for it. Hiphop has been mainstream and popular for a very long time now. there is no excuse. I should not have to hunt for other types of music from the south like its 1982 and hiphop just started. Thats ridiculous.

These artist/styles i named above were easily accessible because they were mainstream to somewhat mainstream. meaning they all at least got a little radio play or video bumps on whatever video station that was hot at the time.

everyone was playing these artists. in the hood and in the burbs.

let me not even get on all the east coast styles.

when there is more to do. you have more styles. everyone isnt about and or/doing the same thing. where as of course there are some dudes from the A and any other southern spot on some other ish. but it doesnt matter. its not enough of them on it to make it a movement. well in these other places there's enough weird people running around cali to make Del acceptable.

the southern rappers from back in the day were more educated in their raps.

as ghetto as the ghetto boys were. they were talking about some real hood stuff but bringing light to a lot of stuff that was going down in the ghetto.

you for the most part do not get that at all today.

outkast were spitting some college educated/street knowledge raps.

Goodie mob was that classic hood blackness educated all wrapped up into one.

for the most part the A is not representing those types of dudes nowadays. yall are pushing Trap music only, or strip club music ONLY. thats on yall in the A. You get tired of being called slow or not lyrical, or wack rap even though yall are technically winning. well start supporting other STYLES of hiphop. Start supporting hiphop that talks about something of substance. you can still have your party hits. everyone needs to let loose on a friday. but aint no way you telling me you want to listen to a strip club anthem when you seeing young black dudes getting merked by the cops in the streets every other tuesday.

i'm just sayin
again, its on yall. dont get mad at me for calling a spade a spade and telling it like it is.
 

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That's all I play.

I'm from Cleveland, we don't listen to that peace and positivity bullshyt around here...because nikkas ain't positive in the hood.

We trying to get money or find a way to get to it to feed our families...either by legal or illegal means.

That ATL music is like the unofficial soundtrack to the streets up here.
and this is the problem. its not all about peace and positivity. there is no way on earth you can constantly push nothing but negativity and expect something different to happen.

do you realize as bad as you THINK it is now. it was worse in the 90's when i was a kid. nuccas was losing their life DAILY. either by Crook or COP. didnt matter. somebody was dying that day if they werent dead. they were going to jail doing football numbers.

nuccas you grew up with. GONE like that. nuccas you knew. GONE

sure chi is wilding out and some other parts are wilding. and yall see the police stuff all on the news. police been terrorizing hood boys and girls. this aint new. its just now NEWS due to the cell phones(thankful for that).

its not like the music didnt reflect the negativity of the time. but while it reflected the negative the same artist were also saying "man..we gotta do something to better ourselves... we gotta get up out the ghetto, we gotta help the ghetto."

thats the difference between even the most ghetto music from that era and today.

No one that was mainstream stayed on the same 100% negative vibe 100% of the time. but now. they stay on that nonsense vibe forever. or they go with the strip club songs ALLLLL The time. non stop as if you're trying to strip club yourself away from the harsh realities of life. i know thats where it comes from. youngins are literally trying to dream themselves out of reality with all these songs about getting money. and all these club songs. you're trying to live in a state of Clubbin forever since its so wack in real life. but thats not reality. at some point you have to face it and deal with it. music helps you deal with reality. turn on some of those old 70's hits. talking about the vietnam war, etc. those songs went hard for the old head parents back in the day. i was a kid in the 80's when i heard those songs. i didnt understand the words. the beat was cool but that was about it. then when i got older i realized these dudes were going hard at the government, at the status quo. going hard at the injustices. all the while keeping it real in the hood. all the while partying it up. you can do both. but it takes effort. it takes really talented song writers and beat makers. to do things that everyone else isnt doing.and it takes a no fear attitude to do things that are not trending. to create something that will trend the next day. vs just following along with whats hot today.
 

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I never really listened to Outkast besides their radio joints....I like field Mob better
did you get into outkast before or after Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik? because that was the last super southern hood/ghetto street corner album they made. it was the first and the last all at once. proving they could've done that their entire career and been better than most at it. but their progression was probably like no other aritst(s) ever. i've seen artist change(cube going from nwa to some muslim/pro black .. but it was still the same sound to some degree). kast kept upgrading and changing the sound. so i understand how some fans were like Nawwww i cant ride with you on this aquemini trip. thats just a bit to far for my tatse. so i cant be mad at that. but the fact that they were not scared to go there is what makes them one of my top favorite groups of all time.
 

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:snoop: you said the prime was in the 90s, i said he got better. :mindblown: how is that not relevant? isn't your prime when you were at your best? and why are your opinions facts and mines opinions? :wtb:
your whole argument is based on opinion. doesn't matter if you wanna call it a fact or not.


andre going mia has made him more relevant than he's ever been in the 90s. again, dre has been the hottest feature in the game for damn near 10 years. every artist talks about how they want to work with him. was that happening in the 90s? no, he wasn't even doing features outside the camp. not to mention outkast ain't even blow until the 00s. hell I've even seen people on this board say outkast was a regular group in the 90s. you wrong. how you not relevant when you got verses on albums by rick Ross, drake, and Lil Wayne? :dahell: c'mon man.
hold up slow down plaiboi,
outkast was at their highest in the early 00's. i'll give you that. but the reason Dre3k wasnt doing features like that or even being asked. is because he was from the same era as these other guys. most of the dudes from the same era do not do a ton of features together. at least not back in the 90's. too much label politics. thats one thing i do love about THIS new era. if Kendrick feels like Collabin with Jcole. its a tweet and its on the next day. its that easy. labels stay out of the way when it comes to these kind of connections. So there's no reason asking for a Dre3k verse when you know your label or his label will do something to mess it all up.

in addition dudes back then were just more competitive. so they were afraid of dre 3k hopping on their record and out classing them. even though he and outkast was your favorite rapper's favorite rappers.
 

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and this is the problem. its not all about peace and positivity. there is no way on earth you can constantly push nothing but negativity and expect something different to happen.

do you realize as bad as you THINK it is now. it was worse in the 90's when i was a kid. nuccas was losing their life DAILY. either by Crook or COP. didnt matter. somebody was dying that day if they werent dead. they were going to jail doing football numbers.

nuccas you grew up with. GONE like that. nuccas you knew. GONE

sure chi is wilding out and some other parts are wilding. and yall see the police stuff all on the news. police been terrorizing hood boys and girls. this aint new. its just now NEWS due to the cell phones(thankful for that).

its not like the music didnt reflect the negativity of the time. but while it reflected the negative the same artist were also saying "man..we gotta do something to better ourselves... we gotta get up out the ghetto, we gotta help the ghetto."

thats the difference between even the most ghetto music from that era and today.

No one that was mainstream stayed on the same 100% negative vibe 100% of the time. but now. they stay on that nonsense vibe forever. or they go with the strip club songs ALLLLL The time. non stop as if you're trying to strip club yourself away from the harsh realities of life. i know thats where it comes from. youngins are literally trying to dream themselves out of reality with all these songs about getting money. and all these club songs. you're trying to live in a state of Clubbin forever since its so wack in real life. but thats not reality. at some point you have to face it and deal with it. music helps you deal with reality. turn on some of those old 70's hits. talking about the vietnam war, etc. those songs went hard for the old head parents back in the day. i was a kid in the 80's when i heard those songs. i didnt understand the words. the beat was cool but that was about it. then when i got older i realized these dudes were going hard at the government, at the status quo. going hard at the injustices. all the while keeping it real in the hood. all the while partying it up. you can do both. but it takes effort. it takes really talented song writers and beat makers. to do things that everyone else isnt doing.and it takes a no fear attitude to do things that are not trending. to create something that will trend the next day. vs just following along with whats hot today.



Breh, music is music. If music dictates your life, you need to stop being so easily infleunced.


I never listed to "positive music" and never will, it's corny to me. All of em.


By the way, I was born in 83....I dropped the same day as Thriller. I know how the 90s were and NONE of my family or friends listened to positive music/raps growing up. We cant relate to that music in Cleveland.
 

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bruh. been there done that. you aint talking to some dude from NYC or some west coast spot that has never left their state. i've been in the south. had people in the south(like most black people). with all the growth the ATL has experienced. There's still not much to do in reality. people are constantly opening up bars/eateries, which open one day close the next more or less. since its over saturated at this point. but when you ask a dude What is there to do in the A. you know what they tell you? the first thing they tell you is..... We can hit the strip club.

That is crazy to me. when the strip club is literally the first or 2nd thing TO do. but thats a culture in the A and maybe even a few other spots in the south(not all). So no wonder all they making is trap music/strip club anthems that end up in the regular club/bar.

let me give you an example.

Cali(my state). back when hiphop was so called great. We had dudes from the same city on completely different stuff.

i'm saying how do you go from Spice 1 (thug/street music). to too short( B's & H's music) to Souls of Mischief (smoking and just having a good time living life as youngins.)

all had hit songs/records around the same time periods.

how does one go from The Pharcyde to Ice Cube to Cypress Hill back to del the funky homosapien

COMPLETELY different artists/styles/production.

This DOES NOT EXIST in the mainstream today from the south. Dont tell me to go search for it. Hiphop has been mainstream and popular for a very long time now. there is no excuse. I should not have to hunt for other types of music from the south like its 1982 and hiphop just started. Thats ridiculous.

These artist/styles i named above were easily accessible because they were mainstream to somewhat mainstream. meaning they all at least got a little radio play or video bumps on whatever video station that was hot at the time.

everyone was playing these artists. in the hood and in the burbs.

let me not even get on all the east coast styles.

when there is more to do. you have more styles. everyone isnt about and or/doing the same thing. where as of course there are some dudes from the A and any other southern spot on some other ish. but it doesnt matter. its not enough of them on it to make it a movement. well in these other places there's enough weird people running around cali to make Del acceptable.

the southern rappers from back in the day were more educated in their raps.

as ghetto as the ghetto boys were. they were talking about some real hood stuff but bringing light to a lot of stuff that was going down in the ghetto.

you for the most part do not get that at all today.

outkast were spitting some college educated/street knowledge raps.

Goodie mob was that classic hood blackness educated all wrapped up into one.

for the most part the A is not representing those types of dudes nowadays. yall are pushing Trap music only, or strip club music ONLY. thats on yall in the A. You get tired of being called slow or not lyrical, or wack rap even though yall are technically winning. well start supporting other STYLES of hiphop. Start supporting hiphop that talks about something of substance. you can still have your party hits. everyone needs to let loose on a friday. but aint no way you telling me you want to listen to a strip club anthem when you seeing young black dudes getting merked by the cops in the streets every other tuesday.

i'm just sayin
again, its on yall. dont get mad at me for calling a spade a spade and telling it like it is.

I've lived in 3 States, 4 cities that are in the south and there's MUCH more to do in all of those places than this shytty ass North/NE, WHICH I'M FROM, so I think I'd know.

If you can't find something to do in ATL outside of clubs and bars then you're just immature as fukk and don't want to do anything
 

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hold up slow down plaiboi,
outkast was at their highest in the early 00's. i'll give you that. but the reason Dre3k wasnt doing features like that or even being asked. is because he was from the same era as these other guys. most of the dudes from the same era do not do a ton of features together. at least not back in the 90's. too much label politics. thats one thing i do love about THIS new era. if Kendrick feels like Collabin with Jcole. its a tweet and its on the next day. its that easy. labels stay out of the way when it comes to these kind of connections. So there's no reason asking for a Dre3k verse when you know your label or his label will do something to mess it all up.

in addition dudes back then were just more competitive. so they were afraid of dre 3k hopping on their record and out classing them. even though he and outkast was your favorite rapper's favorite rappers.
big boi was doing features no problem bruh.:manny:
 

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We was on this shyt out in the Bay!!!!!!!! KMEL, Sway......Who is these Atlanta nikkaz rappin out in the woods? :ohhh: Yall heard these Outkast nikkaz??? "My heart does not go pitty pat for no rat..." :banderas:We was mobbin bucket LTD's n Cutlasses with no L's playin this tape....Blazin to this shyt before football practice, Them coming out on some cool pimp/playa shyt had us all open.



but when you heard the muthafukkin album and them boi's hit you with Git Up......Potnas n shyt gettin killed, muthafukkaz

you was ballin with gettin charged with murder, songs like this had you contemplatin what the fukk gone happen to me?:wow:


Real spit, if you was BLACK AND OLD ENOUGH TO REMEMBER AND RELATE, from the west coast or south, you was fukkin with that 1st Outkast album. Not sayin if you ain't black you can't feel this album but when this bytch dropped, nikkaz was fukkin with it.

C'mon bruh listen what them boi's was spittin on Crumblin Erb, listen to that hook, even in 2015 this shyt will STILL have you off in the zone:damn:



And hoes was gettin tossed to Whoomp There It Is at the school dances, we just didn't play that shyt in the whip:sas2:
 

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I get the impression Kast isnt the same calibre of rapper like gucci young thug etc and thats why they're forgotten.
 

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I get the impression Kast isnt the same calibre of rapper like gucci young thug etc and thats why they're forgotten.

Thats fukked up. It's basically forgetting black history.
 
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