SMH...it is as if OutKast never existed in Atlanta

[rapbeats]

I'd personally rather listen to any of Migos 3-4 mixtapes than any Outkast album

They make better and more enjoyable music to me than Outkast ever has.

And Outkast/Dungeon family were kind of a anomaly in ATL rap sonically...nobody in their city really sounded like them before or after...and they never really had a big impact on the sound of ATL rap...3-6 had a much bigger impact on the sonic/stylistic landscape of ATL rap than Outkast...

And for the record.....

T-Rock >>>>>>> Big Boi & 3K lyrically

Stupid thread anyway...

In what major rap region/city today are rappers still making music on par with the so-called past "legends" in their city/region?

Is anybody in Houston today making music on par with Face/Geto Boys etc.? Kirko Bangz?

Is anybody in NY today making music on par with Biggie, Rakim, Public Enemy etc.? Bobby Schmurda?

Is anybody in the Bay today making music on par with Spice 1 & Too Short?

Anybody in Memphis making music on par with 3-6/Project Pat, 8Ball & MJG?

Anybody in the N.O. making music on par with Juvie, BG, P, C, Mystikal etc.?

We clearly have a nationwide problem here that can't be restricted to one city or region...but i'd say ATL rappers today hold it down better than rappers from any other city/region.

i assume you were born in the 90's with this mentality. so i'll give you a pass.

you are correct we do have a nation wide problem. and we've said this before. But we can point at one region. because one region has been putting out tons of music and has in essence influenced the direction of hiphop. So when you have that big influence you are responsible for the highs and the lows. if you want props for holding hiphop down for the past 10 years. well you have to take responsibility for producing trash for the past 10 years too.

come on lebron you're the king when you win a ring. but you dont want the negative press when you lose?

 

[Ineedmoney504]

i was being specific about the A having a literal strip club CULTURE. its not just a random strip joint in some industrial part of town like it is in every city. But its a THING for folks in the A. This is on people's to do list. and its not a some very small amt of people either. its a lot. dudes and chicks.

of course there's other things to do. but its a big enough thing for a lot of people to think its on the list as something to do. strip joints are in L.a. cali. people go. but its a very very very small minority of people going to strip joints outside of a bachelor party or something along those lines. nuccas in the A are going there for the wings like its a sports bar.

But one of the reason that became a THING is because the A wasnt known for having a bunch of nice sports bars back in the day before all the masses moved down there. So they are still stuck in that culture. Which is why the music that comes out of there even if its a transplant thats down there trying to hustle their music. it has to go thru the strip club first. then it hits the regular club. then it gets some run commercially. we're talking non trap boy music.

the rest of the south has things to do. but lets keep it 150. there's a reason everyone wants to live in NY, DC, Chi, LA, Seattle, these places. if it wasnt for the ridiculous cost of living in these places. these places would be where all the black folks would be living. the only reason we're still in the south like that is because on average we're some of the brokest people in the nation. so we can only afford so much when it comes the cost of living in a city. it is..what it is.

Its literally too much to do in L.A. so much so no one really cared enough to put a NFL team here because us citizens were not even trippin that hard. sure we love sports and the nfl like everyone else. but the owners were afraid that we wouldnt show up to the games cause we have a 1000 other things to get into . that is never the case with the south and a lot of midwest spots(not chi).

U still haven't said one that thing that yall do tho. And I never met a person who wanted to live in chi or Seattle tbh. And no a lot of black people wouldn't flock to those places cause a lot of black people don't like the cold.

 

[Monoblock]

I'd personally rather listen to any of Migos 3-4 mixtapes than any Outkast album

They make better and more enjoyable music to me than Outkast ever has.

And Outkast/Dungeon family were kind of a anomaly in ATL rap sonically...nobody in their city really sounded like them before or after...and they never really had a big impact on the sound of ATL rap...3-6 had a much bigger impact on the sonic/stylistic landscape of ATL rap than Outkast...

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

You know damn well Philly doesnt claim Will like that..

yes philly does.

only thing philly didnt claim was will smith's return to rap in the late '90s.

outkast is more comparable to the roots.....philly always been proud of the roots btw but still.

 

[JustCKing]

thread is funny.

when dungeon family was in their prime, atlanta was more known for so so def & bounce music.

then came pastor troy, drama, miracle, etc.





you gotta explain that one breh.

philly got mad love fot will.

When Dungeon Family was in their prime, So So Def didn't have a rap act that was huge in ATL. The Bass music that was huge in the ATL scene was a by-product of Dungeon Family. Kilo Ali had affiliated himself with DF and was signed to Organized Noize and released an album through them. Carl Mo, also a Dungeon Family affiliate produced several big Bass/Bounce records including a remix to KP & Envyi's "Swing My Way". He also produced Pastor Troy's "Vice Versa". He played a role in producing/co-producing key records on those So So Def bass compilations.

 

[Chris Cool]

carl mo remix

 

[Chris Cool]

When Dungeon Family was in their prime, So So Def didn't have a rap act that was huge in ATL. The Bass music that was huge in the ATL scene was a by-product of Dungeon Family. Kilo Ali had affiliated himself with DF and was signed to Organized Noize and released an album through them. Carl Mo, also a Dungeon Family affiliate produced several big Bass/Bounce records including a remix to KP & Envyi's "Swing My Way". He also produced Pastor Troy's "Vice Versa". He played a role in producing/co-producing key records on those So So Def bass compilations.

had no idea dude was part of ghost town djs.

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

When Dungeon Family was in their prime, So So Def didn't have a rap act that was huge in ATL. The Bass music that was huge in the ATL scene was a by-product of Dungeon Family. Kilo Ali had affiliated himself with DF and was signed to Organized Noize and released an album through them. Carl Mo, also a Dungeon Family affiliate produced several big Bass/Bounce records including a remix to KP & Envyi's "Swing My Way". He also produced Pastor Troy's "Vice Versa". He played a role in producing/co-producing key records on those So So Def bass compilations.

i was just saying that atlanta was more known for so so def breh. they had most of the jams.

nobody knows or cares who produced "swing my way". even if you loved the song, nobody took any of those records serious.

people outside of atlanta never heard of carl mo or kilo ali.

 

[Chris Cool]

they've heard Carl mo's music though.

 

[desp]

so all you play in the whip is strip club anthems, club music, and the occasional repetitive trap boy song?

Y'all make the stupidest statements when it comes to ATL

I dunno if you trolling or you actually this ignorant

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

they've heard Carl mo's music though.

again, thats not my point.

besides, nothing spectacular or groundbreaking was listed.

 

[JustCKing]

i was just saying that atlanta was more known for so so def breh. they had most of the jams.

nobody knows or cares who produced "swing my way". even if you loved the song, nobody took any of those records serious.

people outside of atlanta never heard of carl mo or kilo ali.

So So Def was basically an R&B label by the time OutKast/Dungeon Family debuted. Xscape, Da Brat and Bass Compilations were the biggest things they had going. I remember JD's run with Life In 1472, but it still didn't have the impact on Atlanta or GA in general that an OutKast or Goodie Mob album did.

What artists on So So Def were known outside of Atlanta aside from Jermaine Dupri, Da Brat, and Xscape? There was Kriss Kross, but they were before DF and definitely wasn't on their level when they dropped another album in '95/'96.

Kilo Ali was huge in Atlanta. He was one of the biggest Bass artists. He also had records with a more gritty, street edge as well.

 

[JustCKing]

he still doesnt have much of anything spectacular.

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

So So Def was basically an R&B label by the time OutKast/Dungeon Family debuted. Xscape, Da Brat and Bass Compilations were the biggest things they had going. I remember JD's run with Life In 1472, but it still didn't have the impact on Atlanta or GA in general that an OutKast or Goodie Mob album did.

What artists on So So Def were known outside of Atlanta aside from Jermaine Dupri, Da Brat, and Xscape? There was Kriss Kross, but they were before DF and definitely wasn't on their level when they dropped another album in '95/'96.

Kilo Ali was huge in Atlanta. He was one of the biggest Bass artists. He also had records with a more gritty, street edge as well.

we're having 2 different conversations it seems. so im not gonna continue this back-n-forth.

but in response to what youre saying:
- da brat wasnt r&b. and shes way more hip-hop than that bass chit.
- so so def was the same type of label as bad boy. they both followed the uptown blueprint. if bad boy is a hip-hop label, then so so def is as well. plus so so def was hands-on with more "movements" that came outta that city, including some of the stuff that youre talking about now.
- the whole so so def label was known. and thats not even counting the honorary members like mariah, monica & usher. and kriss kross too. they werent signed to so so def.

but yea, i was never commenting on the stuff that youre trying to argue about.

 

[JustCKing]

we're having 2 different conversations it seems. so im not gonna continue this back-n-forth.

but in response to what youre saying:
- da brat wasnt r&b. and shes way more hip-hop than that bass chit.
- so so def was the same type of label as bad boy. they both followed the uptown blueprint. if bad boy is a hip-hop label, then so so def is as well. plus so so def was hands-on with more "movements" that came outta that city, including some of the stuff that youre talking about now.
- the whole so so def label was known. and thats not even counting the honorary members like mariah, monica & usher. and kriss kross too. they werent signed to so so def.

but yea, i was never commenting on the stuff that youre trying to argue about.

- Where did I post that Da Brat was R&B?
- I said So So Def was more of an R&B label by the time Dungeon Family came on the scene. Brat's debut, Bass Compilations and Life In 1472 were the only things Hip Hop that So So Def had going. So So Def did not have anywhere near the movement that Dungeon Family had as a movement.
- The whole So So Def label was not known. Outside of Jagged Edge, Xscape, Da Brat, JD, Kriss Kross, and Bow Wow, a lot of people are unfamiliar with the artists that didn't put out albums.